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Hello and welcome to the law fair podcast. I'm Benjamin Wittes. Today on the podcast, we have a discussion of lethal autonomous weapon systems. On April 4th, the National Security Law Society at Georgetown Law Society,

at Georgetown Law Center held a panel on the legal and ethical implications of autonomous weapons. It featured Tom Malinowski of Human Rights Watch,

Missy Cummings, Professor of Aeronautics and Astronautics at MIT, and me. The panel was moderated by Shane Harris of Washingtonian magazine and was an unusually good discussion of these issues.

My thanks to the Georgetown National Security Law Society for hosting the event and making the audio of it available to the podcast.

So I'm just going to introduce the most change that you want to. So starting right after Shane, we have Tom Malinowski, who is Washington Director for Human Rights Watch and is responsible for the organization's

advocacy efforts to the U.S. government. Prior to joining HRW, Tom was special assistant to Phil Pleisen and Senior Director for Foreign Policy for be training at the National Security Council.

Before in the White House, he was a be trainer for the Secretary of the State, Christopher and all right, and a member of the State Department of Policy Planning staff.

Next to Tom, we have Professor Missy Cummings. She was one of the Navy's first female fighter pilots. She received her BF in mathematics from the United States Naval Academy.

From the Naval Academy, just a couple years ago, but she's very distinguished couple of years.

From a space systems engineering from the Naval Postgraduate School and her PhD in Systems Engineering from the University of Virginia.

She was a Naval officer and military pilot from 1988 to 1999. Her previous teaching experience includes instructing for the U.S. Navy at Pennsylvania State University and as an assistant professor for the Virginia Tech Engineering.

Engineering fundamental division, and I'm going to let her research interest because I think it's more than anything else, because I can really point out that.

Human supervisory control, human unmanned vehicle interaction, bounded, collaborative, human computer decision making, direct presumption, decision support, simulation evaluation of human interaction, automated systems, and the ethical and social impact of technology.

Benjamin Witton is a senior fellow. He will know him from law fair. He's a senior fellow in governance studies at the Brookings Institution.

He co-founded and is the editor-in-chief of the law fair blog and is a member of the Hoover Institution Task Force on National Security and Law.

He is the author or editor of a number of publications, including attention and denial to keep for tender after Guantanamo, which was published in November 2011, co-editor of Constitution 3.0 Freedom and Technological Change.

And just a number of other publications, an ongoing, very, very useful post on law fair.

Finally, I am pleased to welcome Shane Harris, who will be moderating the panel. Shane Harris is an award-winning author and director of the magazine Journalist.

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