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Episode 26 - Fighting Hillary is How Progressives Win - Councilwoman Kshama Sawant

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4.9 • 784 Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2017

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

As the flailing Hillary Clinton camp steps-up its attacks on Bernie Sanders, her poll numbers continue to drop—and for the first time, have her losing to Donald Trump in a general election. On the cusp of the Democratic Party Convention, millions of Sanders' supporters are wondering what to do other than vote for a 'lesser of two evils.' To gain some insight, Abby Martin interviews Kshama Sawant, an open socialist who just won re-election to Seattle's city council—who also ran an insurgent campaign against the party establishment—about her advice to the Sanders' movement, and how struggles like the Fight for 15 can keep advancing regardless of the presidency. Watch teleSUR's The Empire Files every Friday. FOLLOW // http://twitter.com/empirefiles LIKE // http://facebook.com/theempirefiles Music by Fluorescent Grey

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Empire Files podcast. This is Abby Martin. This is the audio version of each episode of

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the Empire Files hosted on Telesaur English. You can watch every episode at the Empirefiles.tv.

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I will be the nominee for my party crest. That is, that is already done in effect. There is no way that I won't be.

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You said earlier tonight about Donald Trump, this is a man who does not have the demeanor,

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does not have the policy background, or the ideas to become the President of the United States.

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So staying in this race, aren't you effectively making it harder for the Democrats to beat the man who you say would

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be so bad?

0:41.1

She gave him, Oregon, conceded that to him.

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He won.

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He doesn't make up a lot of ground in the delegates, but man, he's not going away.

0:47.2

No, I think he's, and it's now really becoming a problem for the party itself.

0:51.8

Sally, I'm going to begin with you because I know that you've been an avid Bernie Sanders

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supporter since the beginning, but we've now got a grandmother who is worried about her five-year-old

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grandchild.

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We've got a woman who says her marriage might be on the brink because of Bernie Sanders'

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supporters.

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We have a U.S. senator who just said on live national television that she feared for her life at a Democratic convention. Where is this going, Sally?

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When I dropped out at the end of our primary in 2008, I immediately urged all of my supporters to support then Senator Obama. The way that you dealt with the situation in 2008.

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Do you think he'll do the same?

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Well, I would certainly hope so,

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because the most important goal of this primary process

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is nominating a Democratic candidate

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