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Welcome back to the trap draw. This is Neil. We've got another special edition. It's the owners

2.0 podcast. First, of course, thank you to Mr. GZ. Second, Mr. T.C., how are you today?

I'm great, Neil. I'm great. Excited to be back with you guys. We got three great owners to go

through. If you haven't listened to the first iteration of this, go back and listen to that

probably before you do this one. And also, I have a quick made a culpa, which kind of segues right

into our next guest who lives in Maryland as well. Our next host, I should say, lives in Maryland.

I pronounced UTS pretzels UTS last chop session and people are all over me about it. I mean,

I got hostility out the ass from Marylanders just coming at me left and right for the mispronunciation.

So listen, I apologize profusely. I'm sorry. That's not what we're about at T.C. Vision Fund.

As someone who mispronounces a lot of stuff, T.C. Understandable UPS pretzels for you there,

maybe an UF pretzels, but it is UTS. So thank you for that. Mr. KVV, how are you today?

Good. T.C. I hate to see the Marylanders coming at you like that, but I will say my state,

very provincial, very defensive, takes its pretzels, its potato chips, really, very seriously.

UTS potato chips famously featured in an episode of Mad Men, where Don Draper was trying to get to

the comedian Jimmy, I forget his last name, to eat UTS potato chips. They also take their flag

very seriously. Nobody rides for their state flag like Marylanders. Despite it being horrendous,

yeah. No, it's a great flag. I like it. All the, you know, like I like the crab flavored chips.

I'm a massive fan of UTS's entire portfolio. Their hard pretzels are fantastic. You know,

all of it was was in a complimentary positive nature. So nobody respects UTS the way I respect UTS.

UTS levels are high right now. Thank you for that. Of course, this episode of The Trap Draw is

presented by Roeback. T.C. What can you tell me about Roeback? Oh my gosh, Neil, I got one on

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