Welcome to Is This Real Life, a Bravo podcast that relates our favorite shows to our own lives in the world around us.

I'm your host, Mandy Slutszer. Let's get to it.

Hi, everyone. Happy 2023. I hope the first week of this new year was great for you it's been a pretty wild week

uh we had jennifer shaw's sentencing to 6.5 years in prison lisa rina is out on the real housewives of

beverly hills absolute craziness with what's going on in the

Housewives universe, almost as chaotic as Congress. Oh my goodness. I am so excited about

this week's episode because I finally get to have on Erica Cartledge, an incredible stylist, and we go into what

her business is as a stylist, and she gives a lot of her hot takes on fashion and the housewives,

which I have an absolute blast chatting about. We talk primarily about Potomac and Miami. Finally going to give some good time to

the Real Housewives of Miami. They are killing it season five. If you don't already have Peacock,

I highly recommend you get it. If not just to watch the Real Housewives of Miami, but all of the ultimate girls trips,

old housewives seasons, it's great.

Wanted to share before we get into this week's episode some of my thoughts on this week's Salt Lake.

I actually enjoyed it, and I have not really been enjoying this season, but something about

this week's episode was enjoyable to me. It probably was because Dana finally said what everyone

else is thinking, which is how do you reconcile being friendly with Jen Shaw, knowing that

she most likely ripped off old people and

scammed them out of their hard-earned money. It was a conversation that felt so honest,

hearing Whitney say it's the song and dance that we do with her, because if you really upset

her, like, you don't want to be feeling her wrath regardless.

And so everyone just kind of dances around it.

And Lisa Barlow is like, in my own head, in order to kind of work with her, basically,

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