Welcome to Is This Real Life, a Bravo podcast that relates our favorite shows to our own lives in the world around us.

I'm your host, Mandy Slutszer. Let's get to it.

Hi, everyone. I hope you're having a good week. And for those of you who are in the U.S. and who celebrate,

I hope you had a happy Thanksgiving. I'm actually recording this in advance because I'm heading

to Minnesota to be with my family and to celebrate my niece's first birthday, which actually happens

to fall on Thanksgiving. So I am not going to be

recapping Salt Lake or Winter House this week. And I'm also not going to be chatting about family

karma because that is one of my favorite shows. And I am saving it to watch while I am cuddled up in my

pajamas on the couch at home.

So this week's episode is going to be heavy into Potomac, and there are a lot of reasons for that.

And then we do chat a bit about Salt Lake and Winterhouse Dynamics.

My guest, Victoria, has been on the podcast before.

She supports refugee action fund.

The organization is currently merging with another group that supports refugees,

which is called Choose Love.

And she's going to talk to all of us about how we can support refugees

this holiday season. And honestly, year-round. So while the ladies of Potomac may not have

chosen love this past week, I think all of us as an audience can, you know, take a moment

to reflect on where we are and whether

or not we're able to give this holiday season and go to choose.love online or us.

.chews.combe, uh, if you are in the United States to learn how you can support refugees. One thing I will say before we get

into this episode is that obviously Victoria and I are two white women commenting on a show

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