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Blocked and Reported

Episode 22: Freddie DeBoer On "The Cult Of Smart"

Blocked and Reported

Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal

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4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 July 2020

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

After Katie recounts a listener complaint and the cohosts announce a new focus for the podcast, the bulk of the episode consists of an interview Jesse conducted with Freddie deBoer, a brilliant thinker and writer whose first book, "The Cult of Smart: How Our Broken Education System Perpetuates Social Injustice," is a searing indictment of the American education system's most entrenched orthodoxy: the idea that just about any child can succeed academically. The second, patrons-only portion of the interview, a wider-ranging conversations about social media, online leftism, mental health, and other subjects, will be posted by the end of the day on Saturday, 7/25/2020 at the latest, and when it's ready this text will be replaced with a link.

Show notes/Links:

"The Cult of Smart" (yes, it is that good, and yes, you should pre-order it) - https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250224491

Freddie's website - https://fredrikdeboer.com/

FdB: the educational standardization trap - https://medium.com/@freddiedeboer/the-educational-standardization-trap-25aca6c0121

FdB: disentangling race from intelligence and genetics, or how to rescue behavioral genetics from racists - https://fredrikdeboer.com/2017/04/10/disentangling-race-from-intelligence-and-genetics/

FdB: addressing some complaints - https://fredrikdeboer.com/2017/04/11/addressing-some-complaints/



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0:00.0

Katie, how goes it?

0:02.8

Pretty good, Jesse, but I got sort of a heated email from one of our listeners the other

0:07.2

day that I wanted to talk to you about.

0:09.2

How heated?

0:10.2

He said he's top listening.

0:11.2

Wow.

0:12.2

Yeah.

0:13.2

So this was a guy who all I know about him is that he's over 60.

0:16.2

He mentioned that and he's Canadian, so two strikes against him.

0:20.8

Yeah, that's a bad start.

0:22.0

That's dark.

0:23.0

But he said that he's top listening to the show because we talk about ourselves too

0:26.7

much.

0:27.7

So I want to propose something to you.

0:29.5

Wait, you want to propose to me?

0:31.5

That's too personal, Jesse.

0:33.6

This is awkward on multiple levels.

0:35.4

Sorry, go ahead.

0:36.4

Yeah.

0:37.4

Okay.

0:38.4

So instead of talking about ourselves, I think from now on at the top of the show, we

0:42.5

should just talk about my dog.

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