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Episode 22: Brian Koppelman on co-creating "Billions", The enduring success of "Rounders", and his life changing decision to leave the music business.

Boardroom Talks

Boardroom Podcast Network

Business, Entrepreneurship, Sports

4.4 • 620 Ratings

🗓️ 30 December 2020

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Brian Koppelman is the co-creator, showrunner and Executive Producer of Billions, Showtime’s acclaimed dramatic series exploring the high-stakes, cut-throat world of a hedge fund tycoon and the prosecutor trying to take him down. He also hosts the podcast, The Moment with Brian Koppelman. A Long Island, New York native, Koppelman followed his father’s footsteps into the music business, playing pivotal roles in the recording careers of both Eddie Murphy and Tracy Chapman, the multi-platinum and multi-grammy-winning artist. Koppelman ultimately stepped away from a successful career as a music industry A & R exec, to pursue his passion of being a writer. A self-described “poker degenerate,” Koppelman and his writing partner, David Levien, immersed themselves in underground poker clubs, the setting which inspired Rounders, the ’98 poker-themed film starring Matt Damon and Edward Norton. Koppelman shares with Rich and Gianni how he’s been able to maintain his child-like enthusiasm for his work, and tips his hand on the future of the hit series, Billions.

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0:00.0

What's up everybody and welcome to another boardroom out of office podcast number 22 today, Gianni.

0:11.9

I'm not even going to name an athlete that wore jersey number 22 because we failed last week, so that game's over.

0:18.0

And I still apologize for telling you Ray Allen didn't wear 20 when he does

0:21.6

wear 20. Thank you. I appreciate the apology. It was embarrassing. But today, bro, I'm selfish

0:27.8

about this guest because beyond the fact that he fits the mold of our type of guest, I could

0:33.2

honestly talk to him for four hours straight about what he's created and the characters and what he's created.

0:39.3

But we'll save that for the pod and it won't be four hours, I promise everybody.

0:43.3

But on today's show, we have writer, producer, director, and some other crazy things I learned about him, which we'll talk about.

0:52.3

So welcome to the show, Mr. Brian

0:54.6

Coppelman. Brian, how are you, bro? Dude, it's such my pleasure to be here with both

0:58.9

you. This is, uh, I'm so, it's like, I can't believe you had Curios on. I find Curios one of the

1:04.1

most fascinating people, you know, I'm a tennis freak and I'm so fascinated by that dude's level of talent and the complex moral code that he has and his self-destructiveness and also his ability to put.

1:21.8

I found that fascinating.

1:23.6

I could have listened to you guys talk for a long time.

1:26.0

And it's a perfect thing that you're doing this show because, like, you've got to be the only person who could get Curios to come on and just kind of talk without really protecting himself.

1:35.4

It's great stuff.

1:36.3

Thank you, man.

1:36.9

Yeah, I actually, I was like oddly nervous before that because I get it.

1:41.8

I'm a tennis fan, but I, I don't, I couldn't go in the weeds on like the Nick Curios tennis world, but it was pretty amazing to see how deep he got with Gianni and I. Like, I was really impressed by it. Yeah, like I could go deep into the weeds with him, but it's really the emotional stuff and who he is and his makeup and everything. Yeah. So I love that you guys got him to talk on the show. It's great that you got him to talk. Thank you, man. And he represents kind of the wide variety of guests we've had. And that's what the idea of the show was, was that like I've been fortunate enough to go to dinners, to meetings. And like when I came and met with you at kD for the first time and

2:18.4

I find myself just you know becoming a kid in every meeting I'm in and asking a million questions

2:23.4

no matter what you know no matter what age they are so um with Nick it was like I'm talking to this

2:29.7

polarizing athlete um and what a gift to be able to talk to him and understand what makes him tick.

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