Episode 218 - ABA and Literacy Skills w/ Dr. Denise Ross-Page + Dr. R. Douglas Greer

ABA Inside Track

Robert Parry-Cruwys

Behavioralscience, Education, Appliedbehavioranalysis, Autism, Social Sciences, Aba, Science, Specialeducation

4.6 • 623 Ratings

🗓️ 12 October 2022

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

If you’ve listened to this show, you know how much we love to read. Yet a huge percentage of individuals will graduate from high school lacking the proficiency to learn effectively through reading. Since this statistic is anathema to us, we called up two folks writing the book on the subject, Drs. Denise Ross-Page and R. Douglas Greer. We discuss breaking down literacy skills into behavioral components, the differences between reading-to-learn and learning-to-read, and how the science of teaching can improve both outcomes. Also, is it possible to make reading a conditioned reinforcer for everyone?

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Articles discussed this episode:

Gentilini, L.M. & Greer, R.D. (2021). The effect of the establishment of conditioned reinforcement for reading content on second-graders’ reading achievement. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 14, 141-160. doi: 10.1007/s40617-020-00511-1

Hernandez, Donald J. (2011). Double jeopardy: How third-grade reading skills and poverty influence high school graduation. The Annie E. Casey Foundation: New York, NY.

Hugh-Pennie, A.K., Hernandez, M., Uwayo, M., Johnson, G., & Ross, D. (2021). Culturally relevant pedagogy and applied behavior analysis: Addressing educational disparities in PK-12 schools. Behavior Analysis in Practice. doi: 10.1007/s40617-021-00655-8

Ross-Page, D.E. & Greer, R.D. (in press). An introduction to a strategic science of teaching. In D. Ross-Page & R.D. Greer (Eds.),When text speaks: Learning to read & reading to learn (pp. 1-21). Sloan Publishing.

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0:00.0	Hey, everybody. Welcome to ABA Inside Track the podcast. That's like reading in your car, but safer. I'm your host, Robert Perry Cruz. And with me as always is my fabulous co-host.
0:23.6	Hey, Rob.
0:24.4	It's Diana.
0:25.8	Hey, Diana.
0:26.5	I get to go first today.
0:28.4	Why is that?
0:28.9	Because Jackie is not currently here.
0:31.0	Oh, well, that's okay.
0:32.0	Yeah, we had some, like, crossed wires, multiple schedule things happening, double bookings, et cetera. So hopefully she's
0:41.5	going to pop in in a little bit, but for now you have me. Oh, well, that's good. You're usually here.
0:46.8	I live here. That's good to help out. Excellent. So I was thinking the other day, you know,
0:51.2	we're planning the podcast. I was thinking about our slogan, you know, reading in in your car, but safer. Yeah, yeah. And I've been thinking a lot about reading.
0:58.8	You know, I work, my day job, I work in schools. And sometimes people will ask me,
1:02.7	you're a behavior analyst. You must know everything. Tell me about, yeah, all the time.
1:07.7	And folks will say, tell me about teaching kids how to do reading activities.
1:12.4	And, you know, I don't think I've talked about my own reading experience.
1:15.7	I was, you know, I learned to read pretty readily.
1:17.4	It was something I enjoyed.
1:18.3	I love reading some of my favorite activities.
1:20.2	And they'll ask me, how do you teach reading?
1:21.8	I'm like, oh, there's phonics, I think, that might be involved.
1:24.3	And then, well, how do you teach reading comprehension? That's so hard. I was like, well, once you read, you ask questions, magic. Yeah, yeah. And then they learn to read.
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