Hey there, welcome back to the show. This is Phil Vischer. This is a Phil Vischer podcast. I'm here with Christian Taylor. Hi Phil Vischer. Hi Christian. That I'm almost positive. That's black. I threw you off your wearing black. I am. I'm feeling rather low today. And Skye is not wearing black. I'm wearing gray. Skye is wearing gray. You should be in the middle. Yeah, and you're charcoal. I'm charcoal. You're like

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far away like our guest today from Colorado Springs. So we have a guest with us today. I'll do the theme song and then I'll introduce the guest. Okay. Is that okay? Sounds good to me. Okay. Hey, the air conditioning turned off. That's pretty cool. Hey, it's podcast. We'll do you know. Hey, it's a podcast. And we got video. Hey, it's a podcast. So let me hear Phil Vischer podcast starts right here. Oh, we'll talk to Skye. Hi. And Christian to. Hi Phil. And we've got a guest here just for you.

His name is Glenn. Hi, Glenn. Hi, Phil. Hey, it's a podcast. So let me hear Phil Vischer podcast starts right here. The field of Vischer podcast starts right here. Okay. Do you have to get tired of singing that? I only have to sing it once a week. Okay. So it's not bad. It's not like it's safe. You had to be a goat in a traveling musical and sing two shows a day. Like this. Two shows a day for six, nine months. Yeah, that would that's that's okay. That would be worse.

I would definitely get tired of if that was the case. Our guest today is Glenn. Okay, Glenn. Your last name. I'm a little confused. It's. It's got. Give it a shot. It's just a bunch of vowels. Just give it a shot. Paul Paul. No. Much more dynamic like pow. Pow. Oh, just. Just pow. Pow. Yeah. That's pretty. We should probably spell that for our listeners.

If they want to find his book. Yeah, it's PA. You. W. That's right. And it's better than goat. It means peacock in Dutch. So there you go. Really? You are a Dutch peacock. There you go. I thought. Yeah, that's what it is. Why would peacock become a family name?

Because apparently my ancestors kept peacocks or something. I don't know. That's pretty flammable. I want for the bud. I would chips. I don't know the history. Or they acted like peacock. No, don't. Don't start that. Don't go there. You don't know. We don't know. I don't want to hear that. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Glenn is the vice president of global Bible engagement at Biblica and a senior fellow at the Institute for Bible reading. Okay. Back up. What's Biblica?

Biblica is a 200 plus year old organization founded as the New York Bible Society that translates and distributes and helps people around the world deeply engaged with God's word.

Okay. And and Biblica is a new newish name for it. Yeah, we had a merger a few years back and we were the international Bible Society. We merged with another organization with the big long name and a bunch of letters. We decided the combined name was too long. So we shortened it.

Okay. Okay. So it's now Biblica. It was the international Bible Society and it merged with the Southern New Hampshire Bible Society.

Right. Traveling Goat Show and let it go. Okay. And a senior fellow at I've always wanted to be a fellow. You are. I have to tell you you are a fellow.

If you start your own organization, you can assign titles so then call yourself a senior fellow. Really? Yeah. It could be the senior fellow of the podcast. The more senior of a fellow you become.

I'm becoming an increasingly senior fellow. The Institute for Bible reading. Right. Is that where people just sit in a room and read the Bible?

Well, we do try to model it a little bit, but actually we're trying to do research and communication and development of new resources that help people actually engage the Bible, which is actually something that's not happening very much, which is why I wrote that book.

Okay. So, okay. So the Institute for Bible reading. Is that a new organization? Is that brand new? Yeah. It's brand new. Kind of grew out of Biblica. It started here.

And we decided to start a new organization that would just focus exclusively on good Bible engagement and reading in particular as the thing that needs to replace study as the number one thing we do with the Bible.

And by here, you mean Colorado Springs. I mean the entire world. Oh, maybe the galaxy. If we start to think.

Right. We're trying to we have we have contacts around the world. We're trying to make this a global movement to recover Bible reading.

Okay. You just said something that our readers or listeners or viewers, whoever they are, are going to. I know those people are.

It caught my attention. You're trying to get people to read the Bible more rather than study the Bible. Right. What's the difference and why are you making that distinction into his book?

Yeah. Well, the idea is I think it's part of this gigantic modernistic paradigm. We've been in for several centuries now that has elevated certain things over other things related to what we do with the Bible like study over reading.

Going back to the new form of the Bible that we've developed in the modern period leading to a bunch of what I call subpar practices that doesn't allow the Bible to be the Bible that got actually gave us.

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