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Sword and Scale

Episode 210

Sword and Scale

Incongruity

True Crime, Entrepreneurship, Business, Society & Culture, Documentary, History

461.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2022

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

In 2010, Indiana sentenced the third minor in the state's history to life in prison without parole. This is the story of a small town boy without a criminal history who by nature saw the world through a different lens and whose nurture led to preoccupations of murder.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Sort and scale contains adult themes and violence and is not intended for all audiences

0:06.1

Listener discretion is advised

0:24.1

Just like on Napoleon Dynamite your wildest dreams are about to come true

0:27.7

This is season 9 episode 2 10 of Sort and Scale a show that reveals that the worst monsters are real

0:36.3

So we revealed in the last episode that our prices for plus are going up soon and

0:57.3

And we don't know exactly when that will be but they're going to be basically double for the base entry the base entry tier where you can listen all the plus episodes get all the digital content

1:08.8

It's going to go from five bucks a month to ten bucks a month but here's the beauty if you're signed up before we make the switch

1:15.8

Then your grandfather didn't forever at the five dollar level you never have to pay a penny more than five bucks a month so if you've ever thought about joining

1:26.8

It's probably a really good time right now. Sorry, we got to do this but you know inflation, Biden's America costs are going up everything's expensive

1:36.8

So that's the way it goes. I'm sorry. Do you think I was going to pay for it?

1:39.8

But listen if you want to get that deal you can still sign up do it right now sort and scale.com slash plus

2:09.8

What makes a monster? Is it nature? Is it an undeniable imperative that they're born with? Are they truly out of control driven by a savage biological instinct?

2:26.8

Or is it nurture? Do people learn through life's experiences successes and failures to be what they become?

2:36.8

Our monsters just a harsh term used to label innocent people that were molded by other people and their environment and their surroundings

2:48.8

Or do they really exist? Are they all around us and do they look exactly like we do?

3:12.8

In the fall of 2010 the rural town of rising sun and diana had been reeling from a horrific tragedy for nearly a year

3:22.8

With a population under 3000 people rising sun is a stark contrast to the hustle and bustle of Cincinnati Ohio only 40 minutes away

3:33.8

Murder isn't a common occurrence there but alone the murderer being a child

3:41.8

The break was precipitated by Mr. Conley became very emotional when we took him back in chambers to talk with him

3:50.8

He basically said that because he feels so badly about what he's done then he just wants to accept the life of our problem

3:57.8

We have told him that it's just not an option but he has an ability to argue these points that it is very important and necessary for him to go through this process

4:11.8

That the obvious is for telling that I don't believe that I can stand by and do that

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