from some of your piece, it's titled Christian political ethics are upside down. You write this,

the church has formed its members to be adamant about policies that are difficult and contingent

and flexible about virtues that are clear and mandatory. You're not kind until kindness doesn't work.

You're to be kind even through the most brutal acts of repression and in the face of complete

political defeat. When the world is greedy, you are generous. When the world is cruel, you are kind.

When the world is fearful, you are faithful. When the world is proud, you are humble. How do you

know we're Christian? By our love. Yes, we say yes to all of this. Right until the moment when we

think that our kindness, our faithfulness, or our humility carries with it a concrete political

cost. We think we know what's just and we can't do justice without power. And so in our arrogance,

we think we know better than God. We can't let kindness or humility stand in the way of justice.

Yet we're sowing the wind and now we reap the whirlwind. The world's most Christian

advanced nation is tearing itself apart. And it's millions of believers bear much of the blame.

You know, in 2016 and 17, David, I know you heard this when you'd ask about Donald Trump, how can

you support a man who's so cruel and profane and who pays off porn stars after having affairs

while his wife is pregnant? The laundry list is long. They say we are electing a president not a

saint. He's going to stand up for us. He's going to stand up for our way of life. And boy,

has that been exposed in the last few years? Yeah. And I always hated that saying because

no one was arguing that we're going to be electing saints. But there's a world of a

difference between holding someone to a standard of saint and no standard at all. And this is what

has happened is that now there has become no standard at all. You know, one of the things that I

do in the piece is I contrast the movement that is dominating, for example, the Maga right

with the civil rights movement, which was Christian to its core, which was thoroughly Christian and

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