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The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

Episode 209: Francis Fukuyama on Identity Politics (Part Two: Discussion)

The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

Mark Linsenmayer

Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2019

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Continuing on Identity: The Demand for Dignity and the Politics of Resentment (2018).

Fukuyama recommends a "creedal national identity" as a solution for tribalism; does this work? Is this "demand for recognition" that he describes foundational for the act of making an ethical claim? For self-consciousness itself? How does ideology prejudice the sort of theorizing that Fukuyama engages in?

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End song: "Cornerstone" by Richard X. Heyman, as discussed on Nakedly Examined Music #61.

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0:00.0

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0:05.4

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0:16.0

You're listening to the partially examined life episode 209 part two

0:20.6

We just talked to Frank Fukuyama in our first half about his

0:24.3

2018 book identity the demand for dignity in the politics of resentment

0:27.9

Well, that was a good interview. I thought he was a good guest

0:31.2

I thought we got a good overview in the first hour

0:33.4

What was the big hole for folks that we just didn't even get into with him that you thought was really central

0:39.2

Was there anything that we should start off with like that?

0:41.5

Part of the argument that I think is complicated or it's not clear how it fits together

0:46.0

Is what I think of as the complications of the transition from megalothermia to isothermia

0:52.8

And he mentions a few of them right?

0:54.4

So there's the tendency to regress and one of the problems is just

0:58.3

So you're saying there's a historical movement that we start out in a Hobbesian

1:03.2

Is that the starting point now? I'm talking about the

1:06.5

So his transition from megalothermia to isothermia is just that historical transition from

1:11.6

Yeah, maybe mark this is what you're saying, but it's just that transition from

1:15.6

The aristocratic sensibility of wanting recognition for one superiority

1:21.1

To the liberal democracy sense of recognition oneing

1:25.5

Recognition in the form of equal rights for oneself as an autonomous

1:30.8

A human being capable of autonomy and moral choice and in a way that's the story he tells in

1:36.4

The end of history. It's about that transition and the triumph of liberal democracy the triumph of isothermia

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