So many of the Republicans, Joe, have shown themselves to accommodate themselves to whatever

the environment is.

In a way, I guess it's a deep cultural conservative cultural insight, which is the environment matters

a lot.

John Kennedy said that there's a reason that Prof. Courage was slim volume.

There are not many people in politics or in any arena of human life.

It had the courage to stand up when it's difficult to stand up, when there's a cost to it.

And I think what we're seeing is this radicalization of the party, which started with a base and

was amplified by Trump and now has spread.

And Republican after Republican after Republican has accommodated themselves to it.

So you've now got a situation in which Liz Cheney, who is as conservative as it can be,

is a pariah in the party.

And Marjorie Taylor Green has been an advocate for Q&A.

And is more popular than she is.

So this is really a dangerous time for people like you and I who have been part of the Republican

party.

It's a painful time because this party is a dagger pointed at American democracy.

And we have to name that.

And Mika just to add Mika to what Joe was saying about Newt Gingrich, you have a prominent

Fox News host now saying of the FBI, they've declared war on us.

And now it's game on.

I won't even get into what Steve Bannon and others are suggesting.

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