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The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

Episode 207: Herder on Art Appreciation (Part One)

The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

Mark Linsenmayer

Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2019

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

On Johann Gottfried von Herder's "The Causes of Sunken Taste among the Different Peoples in Whom It Once Blossomed" (1775), "On the Influence of the Belles Lettres on the Higher Sciences" (1781), "Does Painting or Music Have a Greater Effect? A Divine Colloquy" (1785), and some of Critical Forests: Fourth Grove (written 1769). With guest rock god John "Jughead" Pierson.

What is aesthetic taste, and why do some societies (e.g. ancient Greece) seem particularly rife with genius? Herder has some definite ideas about aesthetic, sensual education as grounding for abstract thinking, rages against attempts to copy another culture's art-forms, and likes melody over harmony. Plus he coined the term "zeitgeist!"

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0:00.0

The Parsley exam in life depends on your support.

0:02.6

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0:16.3

You're listening to the Parsley exam in life, a podcast by some guys who are at one point

0:19.8

said on doing philosophy for living with them thought better of it.

0:22.8

Our question for episode 207 is something like, what is aesthetic taste?

0:27.6

And we read three essays by Johann Gottfried Herder, the causes of some contaced among the

0:33.1

different peoples in whom it once blossomed from 1775. On the influence of the Belecht

0:38.3

on the higher sciences, 1781, does painting or music have a greater effect

0:43.1

into the Vine colloquy, 1785? And we also read the sections about music and dance

0:48.0

from the book Critical Forrests, Fourth Grove, written in 1769.

0:52.4

For more information, please visit ParsleyXamonLife.com.

0:55.7

This is Mark Linton Meyer, my genius pursuing bad ends with bad means in medicine, Wisconsin.

1:01.6

This is Seth Paschinen, Austin, Texas.

1:03.9

This is Wes Allen climbing the craggy and precipitous cliffs of taste in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

1:10.1

This is John Pearson leaping from the weighty to the frivolous in Chicago, Illinois.

1:15.6

Jughead, if you will. How's it going?

1:18.0

Pretty good. I'm very nervous to be talking with you guys just so you know. I've been a fan

1:22.1

for about seven years. Tell us how you got here.

1:25.7

Well, I did Mark's podcast for my band Even in Blackouts and we just sort of got chatting and

1:33.2

I think he's been trying to get me on here for a while and trying to dig up some sort of

1:37.6

essays on aesthetics to include me. And he found an interesting one.

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