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The Kids of Rutherford County

Episode 2: What the Hell Are You People Doing?

The Kids of Rutherford County

Serial Productions and the New York Times

Society & Culture, Serial, New York Times, News, True Crime

42.7K Ratings

🗓️ 26 October 2023

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

A young lawyer named Wes Clark can’t get the Rutherford County juvenile court to let his clients out of detention — even when the law says they shouldn’t have been held in the first place. He’s frustrated and demoralized, until he makes a friend. From Serial Productions and The New York Times in partnership with ProPublica and Nashville Public Radio, “The Kids of Rutherford County” is reported and hosted by Meribah Knight, a Peabody-award winning reporter based in the South.

Transcript

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0:00.0

In 2013, three years before the arrest at Hobbit Elementary, when a bunch of kids were arrested

0:08.0

and brought to juvenile detention for not stopping a fight, a guy named Wes Clark could

0:12.7

just graduate at law school.

0:15.0

Wes was 25 years old, smart, ambitious, but he was also just coming out of a pretty wild

0:20.5

past.

0:22.0

On and off since he was a teenager, he'd been addicted to oxy-contin.

0:26.1

A hopeless love of this shit is how he puts it.

0:29.9

But with that, came Wes's rap sheet, a DUI, some drug charges.

0:36.0

So considering this, he knew the chances of getting a job at a Tony White sheet law firm

0:41.1

were pretty close to zero, but he needed a job.

0:44.8

That's when some lawyers he met in recovery circles gave him a tip.

0:48.6

There's always work in juvenile court.

0:51.1

They were like, hey, this is a place you can go and at least start out and learn the ropes

0:56.7

because there was a need for lawyers to do that.

1:00.7

Court appointed juvenile cases don't pay well, and lawyers have told me that juvenile court

1:05.9

lacks the prestige of adult criminal court.

1:09.0

One lawyer harshly described it as the bottom run of illegal practice, but for Wes, you

1:15.0

know, it was something to do, which was much better than nothing to do.

1:20.1

At the time, Wes was living in Rutherford County, Tennessee.

1:23.4

And so I just went down to the juvenile court and observed a couple of days and then asked

1:30.8

to, you know, be put on the list to take appointments.

1:35.7

And it was in January of 2014 that I got my first juvenile court appointment.

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