Hello everybody and welcome back to the Chiliminaadi podcast episode 197 as always.

I'm one of your host Mike Martin joined by the Max and Ivan of LA.

Alex and Jesse don't know who that is.

Is that like a sure there British comedy duo known collectively as Max and Ivan.

And they are the creators, writers and stars of the BB for a BBC radio four series,

the casebook of Max and Ivan when Dean shakes his head like, I don't know, bro.

That's how you know this is a deep cut.

This feels like contemporary.

Yeah, they're pretty good.

The 2007 to the day started in 2007.

Max and Ivan, I thought was going to be like Russian propagandists.

No, without anything, I'm Ivan.

Without any, I just, I'm looking at pictures of them.

Yeah, I'm more of a Max.

I believe that.

Well, it's going to be that or it was going to be canon and ball.

But I feel like we did canon and ball before.

Canon and ball is just two items.

That's not.

And so definitely like someone should talk to them about their marketing.

They should be called canon ball.

Why are we canon and ball?

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