Episode 192: Kenneth Williams - Phoenix Memo, Phoenix Mountain Arsonist

FBI Retired Case File Review

Jerri Williams

True Crime, Interviews, Fiction, History, Fbi, Government, Truecrime

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🗓️ 20 January 2020

⏱️ 110 minutes

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Summary

Retired agent Kenneth Williams reviews the events that led him to write what is now known as the “Phoenix Memo,” his work on the Phoenix Mountain Arsonist case, and the aftermath of 9/11.

Ken authored the Phoenix Memo prior to the September 11, 2001 terror attacks. The five-page communication issued a warning to the intelligence community that Al-Qaeda members were training in the civil aviation community in the United States. Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, his memo became public and received intensive attention from national news media. Ken testified before the United States House of Representatives and the United States Senate regarding terrorism matters and cooperated with the 9/11 Commission.

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0:00.0	Welcome to episode 192 of FBI Retired Case File Review with Jerry Williams. I'm a retired agent on a mission to show the public who the FBI is and what
0:19.2	the FBI does through my books blog, and my podcast case reviews with former colleagues.
0:27.0	Today we get to speak to Retired Agent Kenneth Williams, who served in the FBI for nearly 30 years.
0:35.8	He spent most of his career investigating foreign and domestic terrorism matters and took part in many high-profile terrorism investigations, including
0:47.6	the bombing investigation of the AP Morrow Federal Building in Oklahoma City. In this episode, Ken Williams reviews the events
0:58.8	that led him to write what is now known as the Phoenix memo. He also reviews his untimely reassignment
1:07.2	to work on the Phoenix Mountain Arsonous case and the aftermath of 9-11.
1:14.0	Ken authored the Phoenix memo prior to the September 11, 2001 terror attacks.
1:22.4	The communication issued a warning to the intelligence
1:25.8	community that Al Qaeda members were training in the civil aviation
1:31.0	community in the United States.
1:33.5	Following the terrorist attacks,
1:35.8	his memo became public and received attention
1:39.8	from national news media.
1:42.2	Can testify before the United States House of Representatives and the
1:46.2	United States Senate regarding terrorism matters and cooperated with the 9-11 Commission.
1:53.2	Ken has extensive experience investigating sensitive international terrorism matters
2:00.1	and has traveled for the Bureau to the Middle East, Europe, and Africa.
2:04.7	During his FBI career, Ken has received prestigious commendations such as the CIA's Exceptional Human Intelligence Collector Award.
2:16.0	Ken has appeared on local television news and has made many public appearances regarding terrorism matters. Currently he works for
2:27.1	Tollhurst International LLC, a licensed private investigations firm that also provides security
2:35.6	consultants, customizable training courses, and guest speaker services.
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