Hello, and welcome to the Nauticast podcast, the one through chapter by chapter podcast

going through a song of ice and fire. I'm one of your hosts Emmett, also known as Poor Quentin.

And I'm your other host, Manu, also known as Manu, also known as Manucleur Bomb. And welcome to the

190th episode of the Nauticast titled The Red Sword of Heroes,

an analysis of a storm of swords, Aria 7, in which Aria watches Barak Dundarian win a battle against

the bloody mummers, welcome Gendry to the Brotherhood, and also declare that his immortal life

is worse than death. Damn, we just can't get a happy ending for anyone.

If you're looking for a happy ending, I think you came to the wrong place. Over and over and over

again. And we're very excited to welcome our special guest for the episode. We've had them on before for

another Aria chapter back in Clash of Kings. Welcome back to the Natacast, Wolfman Zach, our very own hand to the king. How you doing, buddy?

Doing great. Happy to be here. Thanks for having me back. Of course. As much fun as we had with that,

that Jokin-Hagar, aria in Heron-Hall chapter back in Clash of Kings. I feel like that was just the appetizer for this one. We were just getting ready for it. So super happy to have you. Yeah, exactly. That was just a little taste because this one was so far down the road, but we finally made it. We did it all together. We're here. The road is long, but it has an end,

at least for us, not for R. Yeah. And not for, not for the series as a whole. So,

never, apparently, exactly, exactly. So our spoiler warning is always prepared to be spoiled

for all published books, the five novels, the three Duncan Egg novellas, histories, interviews, The Winds of Winter sample chapters, as well as Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon, the TV shows.

Anything and everything.

Our question this episode comes from one of our patrons, David, who asks, greetings is not a cast, question. Do you think we'll see your old co-host's namesake in

the Winds of Winter, leading or being part of a band of outlaws like the Brotherhood? It's mentioned

in a Feast for Crows, Jamie 7, that he suspected to see the Blackfish leading a band of outlaws,

which could in turn lead to a reunion with Uncatholin and Brendan that I find equal parts

mournful and cathartic. I know this is still a long ways off before it's relevant to answer for you guys,

but I sincerely hope you continue your A Song of Ice and Fire reread journey all the way through,

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