Episode 188: Discussing "Lysistrata" and Politics with Lucy and Emily (Part Two)
The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast
Mark Linsenmayer
4.6 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 30 April 2018
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
Concluding our discussion of Aristophanes's play with Lucy Lawless and Emily Perkins. We focus on trying to connect its lessons to the here and now: Is Lysistrata's victory properly described as the ascension of some kind of "feminine spirit" over warlike values, and how does that actually relate to women's struggles now to attain positions of power?
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| 0:00.0 | Partially examine life relies on your support to find out how to help in ways that are cheap or even free for you |
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| 0:16.1 | You're listening to the partially examined life episode 188 part two on the play lysis strata last time |
| 0:22.5 | We talked about the difference between the oikos the household and the polis the |
| 0:28.0 | Political world and how the Greeks obviously thought that that had something to do with the male and female and |
| 0:34.4 | How do those two things map nowadays? Well, I didn't want to spend all our time just making up or recalling |
| 0:41.1 | Facts about ancient Greeks |
| 0:44.6 | I want us to take advantage of our guests and think about is there anything we can say about feminism more that's |
| 0:51.2 | projected out of this or about |
| 0:53.5 | Political advocacy the initial question that you had suggested west was the connection between |
| 0:58.8 | Erotica and politics like is there the erotic and the erotic and the political not erotic those are two completely different things Mark |
| 1:08.4 | That's relationship between porn and the state |
| 1:12.4 | Conjures up some nasty images |
| 1:15.3 | That's all CNN this morning. Basically Trump Trump is that relationship right there. He's that relationship incarnate or you could say the relationship is metaphorical that the government they fuck you |
| 1:26.4 | That's what they do |
| 1:30.0 | But yeah, the erotic and the political or the ways in which ones individuality ones individual passions ones desires |
| 1:36.8 | And you could even say the pluralism that sort of like stems from that how that fits into the state |
| 1:42.0 | I think one of our authors speaks a little bit to that but yeah, I think |
| 1:46.0 | Mark's right. It's a good thing for us to free associate on you just mentioned it being whether it was feminist mark |
| 1:52.7 | I thought I mean Emily at the end of our discussion last time she I think made the right point that |
| 1:59.0 | It doesn't seem to be feminist at all. There's not a feminist resonance in the play |
| 2:04.4 | Well, there's a temptation to think of it that way because |
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