Episode 183 - JUSTICE: The Struggle for Balance

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Jungian, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Psychology, Dreams, Jung, Relationships, Selfhelp, Society & Culture, Psychoanalysis

4.8 • 1.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2021

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Principles of fairness and justice have deep roots in the human psyche: we want to receive our fair share and a fair shake. When man injures man, we may protest, strive for redress, and measure wrong with morality—but what about godly misfortunes? Life, myth, and religion are rich with issues of injustice. Whether personal injury, social inequality, or divine mystery, over-insistence on fairness can lead to depression, resentment, and fixation.

Instead, we must distinguish injustice from loss, recognize what can and cannot be changed, and orient to the future. Imprisoned in a concentration camp, Viktor Frankl later wrote, “Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s way.”

Here’s the dream we analyze:

“I stood opposite my husband as he told me he’d found somewhere else to live, and with a mystery woman. I paced around; we were in a busy place. I reached for my phone, unsure whom to phone or text. I felt panic as I realized I wasn’t sure who I could rely on, aware of a sense of burden. I didn’t have a job yet; how would I support myself and our children? In the dream, I was aware there was a separation that felt as if I had instigated it in order for him to realize our marriage was worth saving. However, him moving on so swiftly made me feel as if I’d made a huge mistake. As I returned home, my neighbor invited me to a cafe to talk. I felt hungry, and junk food was placed in front of me. She wanted the gossip. I felt the urge to share but knew everyone would soon know about my husband leaving.”

REFERENCE:

Viktor Frankl, Man’s Search for Meaning, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0006IU470/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_8Q0BT8KHK0WD6CCPAHWJ

RESOURCES:

Learn to Analyze your own Dreams: https://thisjungianlife.com/enroll/

Link to Lisa’s lecture and workshop October 15-16, 2021: https://ofj.org/event/another-whom-we-do-not-know-dreams-as-the-voice-of-the-inner-companion/

Transcript

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0:00.0	So I wanted to let this Union Life listeners know that I will be giving a two-hour online event
0:10.0	that is sponsored by the Oregon Friends of Young on October 15th at 7 p.m. Pacific Time.
0:18.0	And it will be a lecture that explores the basic principles of Jungian Dreamwork.
0:24.0	And the next day there will be a workshop. And my title is another whom we do not know.
0:31.0	Dreams as the voice of the inner companion. And I've been working with some really interesting material.
0:36.0	I'm really excited about it. And I hope you'll come. So we'll put the link in the show notes.
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0:58.6	Dream School is a unique, self-paced online program you can start at any time that unlocks access to your inner world.
1:07.6	Our 12 month program provides the support, knowledge, and guidance you need to reach within, decipher your personal dream code,
1:16.6	and harness it to optimize your life. By enrolling, you'll join an affirming community of fellow travelers each pursuing a unique quest.
1:26.6	And it's fun. Join us on an adventure to wholeness and healing through understanding your dreams.
1:32.6	Go to this JungianLife.com and click on Dream School. You'll be taken to our secure checkout. Once you join, you'll get immediate access to our first three modules.
1:44.6	You can get started right away. We look forward to seeing you there.
1:50.6	Welcome to this Jungian Life. Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Martiano, Debra Stewart and Joseph Lee invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day.
2:09.6	I'm Lisa Martiano and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a Jungian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
2:18.6	I'm Debra Stewart, a Jungian analyst and Cape Cod.
2:28.6	Today, we are going to circle around the concepts of justice and fairness because I think we all have a memory of being a five-year-old and shouting out to some adult, but it's not fair.
2:47.6	And indeed, we seem to be hard-wired for a sense of what is fair, reciprocal, and is this a subjective perception, or are there some real objective sort of principles out there?
3:07.6	Even primates are wired for what they perceive as fair. So somewhere, there are some archetypal realities that we'll explore.
3:19.6	Justice and fairness are also integral to a functioning society, and there are lots of ways that those principles of what's right and fair and just have been conceived over time.
3:33.6	And then there are the gods, such as in Greek mythology and other systems, and what their ideas of fairness are versus man's perception of what is fair.
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