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Welcome back to the Any Gram Journey.

This is the fourth episode in our series highlighting each of the nine Any Gram numbers,

their gifts, and their challenges and relationships.

These weeks are leading up to the release of my new book, The Path Between Us,

and the Any Gram Journey to Healthy Relationships.

Published by Intervarsity Press, it will be available April the 10th.

You can pre-order now at ivypress.com or Amazon.

My guest today is Rose Estes, who is a 4 on the Any Gram.

She and her husband Webb, who is a 6, have two beautiful little girls.

Rose talks about being a 4 in ways that are far more beautiful and nuanced than I ever could.

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Rose, welcome to the Any Gram Journey.

Thank you, thanks for having me.

I'm so glad to have an opportunity to visit with you for a while for a lot of reasons.

One is because you're a 4 on the Any Gram, and I think 4 is the most complex and the most misunderstood number.

And you're pretty articulate about your affornous, which will be helpful to everybody.

I'm interested in talking about relationships because that's a big thing for me, and it's a big thing for 4s.

So that's a good topic for us to work with.

I know about you that you're married to a 6, and that you all have two little girls.

And one of them is brand new, how old is she?

She just turned 6 months old.

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