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The Literary Life Podcast

Episode 178: The "Best of" Series- The Great Divorce, Ch. 11-End, Ep. 50

The Literary Life Podcast

Angelina Stanford

Arts, Books, Education

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2023

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

This week on The Literary Life Podcast, Angelina, Cindy and Thomas wrap up their discussion of C. S. Lewis' The Great Divorce with the final chapters 11-14. Cindy and Angelina talk about the dangers of familial love becoming the end-all-be-all, as well as Lewis' exploration of Dante's idea of sin. They go in depth with this exploration of sin as a distortion of something that might naturally seem good and the way Lewis pairs people to demonstrate that in these chapters. Angelina talks about the medieval view of ordered man versus the disordered man and how that relates to the man with the horse. They wrap up with the importance of stories in depicting truth in a veiled way, instead of only theological argument and discourse, in helping us live out our faith in a properly ordered way.

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Commonplace Quotes:

We chose from the library shelves any book of Tales for the Young, and took much pleasure in prophesying the events. We could rely on Providence to punish the naughty and bring to notice the heroism of the good, and generally grant an early death to both. Why was there a bull in a field? To gore the disobedient. Why did cholera break out? To kill the child who went down a forbidden street. The names told us much: Tom, Sam, or Jack were predestined to evil, while a Frank could do nothing but good. Henry was a bit uncertain: he might lead his little sister into that field with bravado, or he might attack the bull to save her life at the cost of his own. We had bettings of gooseberries on such points.

M. V. Hughes

Exaggeration is one of art's great devices.

J. B. Priestley

Hell is inaccurate.

Charles Williams

There is a Pleasure in the Pathless Woods

by Lord Byron

There is a pleasure in the pathless woods,
There is a rapture on the lonely shore,
There is society where none intrudes,
By the deep Sea, and music in its roar:
I love not Man the less, but Nature more,
From these our interviews, in which I steal
From all I may be, or have been before,
To mingle with the Universe, and feel
What I can ne'er express, yet cannot all conceal.

Book List:

A London Child of the Seventies by M. V. Hughes

Cautionary Tales for Children by Hilaire Belloc

An Inspector Calls by J. B. Priestley

The Good Companions by J. B. Priestley

Jayber Crow by Wendell Berry

Paradise Lost by John Milton

A Preface to Paradise Lost by C. S. Lewis

Mere Motherhood by Cindy Rollins

The Allegory of Love by C. S. Lewis

A Woman of the Pharisees by François Mauriac

Perelandra by C. S. Lewis

That Hideous Strength by C. S. Lewis

Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Literary Life Podcast.

0:03.0

We've grown quite significantly since our debut in 2019,

0:07.0

and we've had many requests to highlight older episodes

0:10.0

that new listeners may have missed,

0:12.0

as well as revisit listener favorites.

0:15.4

To honor that request, I present to you this episode of the Best of the Literary Life Podcast. This is not just another book chat podcast.

0:27.0

Lifelong reader Cindy Rollins joins teachers Angelina Stanford and Thomas Banks for an ongoing conversation about the skill and art of reading well.

0:37.0

Explore the lost intellectual tradition and discover how to fully enter into the great works of literature.

0:44.7

Learn what books mean while delighting in the sheer joy of imagination.

0:50.2

Each week we will rescue a story from the ivory tower and bring it to your couch, your kitchen,

0:56.2

and your commute. The literary life is for everyone because in the words of Stratford Caldecott,

1:02.0

to be enchanted by deeper insight into reality.

1:07.8

Join us for an ever unfolding discussion of how stories will save the world. This is the Literary Life Podcast. Hello and welcome back to the literary life podcast today the three of us are going to try to finish out

1:38.6

Louis's the great divorce and see if we can't make sense out of his vision here for this book.

1:46.0

So if you are joining us for the first time, I am Angelina Stanford and with me are my two partners in crime,

1:52.0

including one with a life sentence say hello

1:55.3

Mr Banks delightful as always and I promise he is not a dwarf with a man on a chain

2:00.5

talking into this microphone. Are you sure? Well, maybe he's a lizard on your shoulder and we just can't see him.

2:08.8

Oh, Cindy, that's terrible. That might be more my status. We never. And with me is, well gosh, okay, so with me is also the glowing woman.

2:21.6

The glowing beautiful woman. The glowing beautiful woman who has loved embodied Cindy Rollins.

2:28.0

Oh yes that would be me.

2:31.0

Well I could have said you were the mother who wanted to drag your son to hell. I know I just I have

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