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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 174: Portland Trailblazing

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2020

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

This week we don't lack for topics, to say the least. Tune in for in-the-weeds discussion of: Trumplandia meets Portlandia 1: What's the legal basis for DHS components engaging in law enforcement activity there? Trumplandia meets Portlandia 2: Since when can you just shoot a non-violent person in the head with a "less-than-lethal" round? Trumplandia meets Portlandia 3: What's the legal framework for DHS collection and analysis of intelligence relating to property-protective missions? Meanwhile, Michael Cohen litigates BOP's ability to send him back to jail for publishing a book Meanwhile, in regular law enforcement: terrorism charges for an MS-13 leader Meanwhile, at GTMO: A remarkable sanction against the government issued by the trial judge in the Majid Khan military commission case Meanwhile in Europe: The Court of Justice of the European Union blows up Privacy Shield based on concerns involving Section 702 and also 12,333 collection Meanwhile in the 9th Circuit: A sharp dispute over the interaction of FISA and the state-secrets privilege just might set the stage for SCOTUS to weigh in And then, after all, we have what we must admit was a desultory frivolity segment.  Though maybe that is purposeful performance art, projecting how the MLB "regular season" is going to feel...

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin.

0:10.3

Welcome to episode 174 of the National Security Law Podcasts.

0:14.6

We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:18.4

It's Tuesday, July 21st, 2020.

0:20.7

I'm Bobby Chesney. Who are you? I'm Steve Lodick.

0:23.6

I don't even know what to say. Your level of exasperation grows by the week, which is really saying something.

0:31.6

So people who know me well, I think, would tell you that one of the weirdest things

0:37.8

about my personality is that the angrier I am, the quieter I get, right?

0:42.7

That, you know, I'm usually a very boisterous and loud and, and, I don't know, lugubrious,

0:51.2

right, and exuberant.

0:53.2

Exuberant, right.

0:54.6

And, you know, when I get really, really upset, I actually just get, like, totally,

0:59.4

no, lugubrious is sad.

1:01.4

I actually get lugubrious.

1:02.5

That's the, that's the word I was looking for.

1:04.3

Like, I just sort of get down.

1:06.3

We've got, we've got the thesaurus out this morning.

1:09.0

We really do. But I've seen the proof of what you're saying in faculty meetings, I think.

1:16.8

I could either confirm or deny that there are faculty meetings where I just retreat into my shell and curse everybody under my breath.

1:22.8

If only everyone in faculty meetings would adopt that posture.

1:29.7

It's one of these weird things,

1:30.9

we're like,

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