Episode 170: Ian Manuel

Criminal

Vox Media Podcast Network

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.7 • 38.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

"The phone rang and rang and a lady picked up on the other end and I still remember the operator saying, 'You have a collect call from Ian for Debbie. Will you accept the charges?' And I remember Debbie saying, 'Yes, I accept.' And I just remember blurting out, 'Ms. Baigrie, I just called to wish you and your family a merry Christmas and to apologize for shooting you.'" At 14 years old, Ian Manuel was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole, and spent an estimated 18 years in solitary confinement. Today, he tells his story. His book is My Time Will Come. You can listen to our full conversation with Bryan Stevenson in Episode 46: Just Mercy. Say hello on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Sign up for our occasional newsletter, The Accomplice. Follow the show and review us on Apple Podcasts: iTunes.com/CriminalShow. We also make This is Love and Phoebe Reads a Mystery. Artwork by Julienne Alexander. Check out our online shop. Episode transcripts are posted on our website. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, it's Phoebe.
0:02.4	I wanted to let you know that we have a shop on our website where you can buy all sorts
0:06.3	of criminal related things.
0:08.5	There are criminal logo t-shirts and sweatshirts.
0:11.2	There's a nice criminal water bottle and coffee mug, tote bags, postcards, pins, we even
0:16.4	have socks.
0:18.1	Just said that this is criminal.com slash shop.
0:20.7	That's this is criminal.com slash shop and we'll have a link in the show notes too.
0:27.2	This episode contains descriptions of violence.
0:30.3	Please use discretion.
0:34.1	They kept trying to get me, they gave me the gun and they kept trying to rob people in
0:40.5	the open, broad daylight and I kept saying no, no, no.
0:44.6	So after turning like 10 people down, we finally all sat down on a curve and they said,
0:52.0	and if you're not going to do it, give the gun to somebody else.
0:54.9	Now we're passing this gun around like a hot potato, like who's going to do it.
0:58.8	We made a pact, we made a agreement at that moment that the next people we came upon,
1:04.1	whether it was in the open or not, that this is the robbery was going to happen and
1:09.6	it was going to go down.
1:11.5	On July 27th, 1990, a 28 year old woman named Debbie Bakery went out with some friends
1:18.2	in downtown Tampa.
1:20.3	She'd recently given birth to her second child and this was her first night out with
1:24.2	friends in a while.
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