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Episode 168 | Alison Desir

the morning shakeout podcast

the morning shakeout podcast

Coaching, Marathons, Sports, Olympics, Running, Ultrarunning

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 July 2021

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

“What the marathon experience—that first marathon experience—did for me, was it gave me a perspective shift on life, which, wow, that sounds really lofty hearing myself say it back, but truly, everything was like so muddied and I couldn’t pull myself out. I had gone to really good schools and done all of the things I was supposed to do but I couldn’t pull myself out of feeling terrible and feeling like I was a failure and there was no blueprint of, ‘What am I supposed to do with my life?’ But the marathon gave me this very concrete training plan—like in 16 weeks, if you do this, you will get this—and never in my life outside of school had something been so prescriptive and easy. I mean, [it was] really difficult because you have to do that work but if even a stranger can promise me that if I do this work and I get that, then like f*ck yeah, I’m gonna do this. So I stuck to that training plan like it was my bible and what I saw was that it wasn’t magic but these physical challenges that I was doing really were very much tied to my mental ability to push through it and to stay in places of discomfort…You’re in a place of discomfort but you're moving through it—you don't get stuck in the place of discomfort, so that was a really powerful lesson for me.” I’ve been waiting a while to have this conversation with Alison Mariella Désir and it did not disappoint. Alison wears many hats: she’s a mom, athlete, and coach. She works as the Director of Sports Advocacy and an Athlete Advisor for Oiselle, she’s a co-chair of the Running Industry Diversity Coalition, co-founder of Harlem run, a community organizer, and a lot more. In this episode, Alison told me about her relationship with running, the ways in which it’s evolved over the years, and how she views her place in the sport today. We discussed how feeling out of place as a runner led her to create communities where people feel like they belong, we talked about the lack of diversity in the running industry and the work she’s doing to help change that, as well we her upcoming book, The Unbearable Whiteness of Running, due out in 2022. We also talked about identity and extroversion, competitiveness and community building, and a lot more.Complete show notes: https://themorningshakeout.com/podcast-episode-168-with-alison-mariella-desir/Sign up here to get the morning shakeout email newsletter delivered to your inbox every Tuesday morning: www.themorningshakeout.com/subscribe/Support the morning shakeout on Patreon: www.patreon.com/themorningshakeout

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What the marathon experience that first marathon experience did for me was it gave me a perspective

0:12.7

shift on life, right?

0:14.8

Which is like wow that sounds really lofty hearing myself say it back but truly everything

0:19.4

was like so muddied and like it's like I couldn't pull myself out like I had gone to

0:24.5

really good schools and done all the things that I was supposed to do but I couldn't pull

0:27.6

myself out of feeling terrible and feeling like I was a failure and there was no there

0:33.5

was no blueprint of like what are what am I supposed to do with my life but the marathon

0:38.4

gave me this very concrete training plan like in 16 weeks if you do this you will get

0:43.7

this and never in my life outside of school had something been so prescriptive and easy

0:52.1

right like I mean really difficult because you have to do that work but if even a stranger

0:55.9

can promise me that I do this work and I get that then like fuck yeah like I'm going

1:00.0

to do this right so I stuck to that training plan like like it was my Bible and what I

1:05.7

saw was that you know it wasn't it wasn't magic but these challenges these physical challenges

1:11.4

that I was doing really were very much tied to my mental ability to push through it

1:18.8

and to stay in places of discomfort you know you're in a place of discomfort but you're

1:25.0

moving through it you don't get stuck in the place of discomfort so that was a really

1:30.0

powerful lesson for me hey what's up everyone thank you so much for tuning in that was Allison

1:58.0

Mariela Desire that you just heard from a few seconds ago I'm your host Mario Freyoli

2:03.0

and you are listening to the Morning Shakeout podcast every week on this show I gleaned

2:07.7

insight and inspiration from athletes coaches and personalities in the sport of running through

2:12.4

long form conversations that are a bit different from the ones that you'll hear elsewhere.

2:17.3

In addition to the podcast I published a weekly newsletter it's also called The Morning

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