Episode 164: Sanctuary

Criminal

Vox Media Podcast Network

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.7 • 38.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2021

⏱️ 38 minutes

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After 32 years in the United States, José Chicas was told he had to leave. He bought a plane ticket to El Salvador, but then a local church offered another option. Special thanks to Jackie Metivier. Say hello on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Sign up for our occasional newsletter, The Accomplice. Follow the show and review us on Apple Podcasts: iTunes.com/CriminalShow. We also make This is Love and Phoebe Reads a Mystery. Artwork by Julienne Alexander. Check out our online shop. Episode transcripts are posted on our website. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I would always keep the door open.
0:02.0	And put a chair here.
0:04.0	So that I can be able to watch those sides.
0:06.0	That's why I figured, I'll keep an eye out.
0:08.0	I'll have a chance to run inside.
0:10.0	Sometimes I would see a car that I wouldn't recognize
0:14.0	and then run inside and peek through the blinds
0:18.0	to see who they were.
0:20.0	We'd see a car that I wouldn't recognize
0:22.0	and then run inside and peek through the blinds
0:24.0	to see who they were.
0:26.0	We'd see a car that I wouldn't recognize
0:28.0	and then run inside and peek through the blinds to see who they were.
0:30.0	We met with Jose Chica a few weeks ago
0:32.0	in Durham, North Carolina.
0:34.0	He felt more comfortable speaking with us in Spanish,
0:36.0	so you'll hear the voice of Jackie Mativier
0:38.0	as our interpreter.
0:40.0	We met in a part of town called Waltown,
0:42.0	not far from Duke University,
0:44.0	on Oneslow Street,
0:46.0	on the property of St. John's Missionary Baptist Church.
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