Welcome to the worship leader probs podcast, where we aim to entertain, encourage, and equip worship and tech leaders all around the world.

Look, we all know that serving in worship and production is great, but the problems...

Those are real.

Thanks for joining us as we dive into today's episode with our host, Brian Tabor.

Welcome to episode 162 of the Worship Leader Probs podcast. We are so glad that you are here. We record these on Zoom and I always try to throw Jen with how I ramp into these and I just did it. You sound like a flight attendant. It's like, well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 162. Please make sure your tree tables are in their upright position.

Oh my gosh.

Guys, we love you.

We're here for those three E's. We tell you every week.

We want to entertain you, encourage you and equip you.

That's our hope as we come into this.

And boy, do we have some good stuff for you today.

Yeah, we do.

Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do. We are going to share some resources with you because we always want to equip you for ministry.

We are going to share some laughs with prayer concerns.

The most popular, my favorite thing on the planet is prayer concerns and the crazy stuff that people say.

And then we're going to be sharing awesome conversation that we had with Tara Cruz.

She was formerly with Vertical and she's just doing a whole bunch of other stuff right now.

And, man, she dropped some fire. It was an incredible, incredible conversation that we got to have.

But before we get to all of that, Brian, will you take just a moment and tell our listeners about our sponsor Planning Center?

Yes, I would love to. You know we love Planning Center. They're undefeated,

revolutionized ministry for me. They have this new app called Church Center. We've been telling you

about it. And it's a free app. You give your congregation access to this. And they can connect

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