Hello and welcome to On the Ledge podcast. I am your host, Jane Perrone. Cut me and I bleed sap.

Yes, this is the show about house plants where we can all share our darkest secrets, whether that is quite how much of your paycheck you spent on house plants last month,

or what happens to your heart rate when you see that reverse variegated Hindu rope hoa on Instagram.

In this episode, I talk to the wonderful human being that is Tyler

Thrasher. He's an artist. He's a scientist. He's a plant breeder. And he's the creator of

Plant Podcast Greenhouse Rants. Tyler joins me for a wide-ranging chat about everything from why the internet

is the wrong place to go for plant information, racism in the plant community, breeding new

hybrid succulents, and why following your passions is really the way to go if you want a happy

and fulfilled life.

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for my interview with Tyler Thrasher. It's a long one, so get yourself a pot of hell grey, or

a nice long dog walk to go on on or whatever is your podcast accompaniment of

choice because you've got a treat in store and do go and check out the show notes where you can

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