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Greetings dear listeners this is Jonah Goldberg host of the Remnant Podcast which is part of Dispatch Media which also puts out the morning Dispatch newsletter, the Goldberg file and soon to be many other important products I hate calling them products but it kind of makes sense.

And this week's episode or today's episode of the Remnant is brought to you by Ernest more about them in a little bit but so today we have a very special guest we have according to some out there.

And I'm open to correction maybe we can get David Bonson on here to explain the theological metaphysical stuff to me better but my understanding is that in some gnostic sex the demi-erge is not the creator of the universe who is the Almighty but rather it is some sort of lesser force that creates a tainted flawed world that is really the in some ways the source of all that is twisted and bent in the crooked timber of humanity and why we can't have nice things.

And fortunately by whatever name you want to put to a metastophiles B.L. Zabab Aquaman lover we have one of the latest and greatest hires for the Dispatch my friend David French David welcome.

Well thank you and there's something inconsistent between Aquaman lover which is virtuous and B.L. Zabab which is not.

They both fit under the rubric of wrong.

Oh okay.

Okay.

No great to have you here you are your first official day after a interminable period of unemployment of 48 hours.

Yes.

Was on Monday yesterday and now you are believe we're calling you a senior writer senior editor senior I apologize.

I know it's been a long six months senior editor at the Dispatch and you the fullest of your responsibilities we're going to be working out in the days and weeks ahead but we are delighted to have you and welcome aboard.

Well thank you I'm delighted to be aboard it's you know I'm just thrilled to get to work with you and Steve and get to know Toby you know he's one of these guys that you've always heard great things about and never met him.

That's one of the things about their advantages and disadvantages of living in Tennessee is you one of the advantages you're kind of get to see the beltway from the 30,000 feet altitude the disadvantages.

There's a lot of people that you hear good things about that you just never run across.

Yeah.

No and that's true it's just sort of our line of work to particularly since the dawn of the internet it's such an intimate medium in some ways then you feel like because you've exchanged a couple of emails with somebody or DMs on Twitter.

Right that they become your friends and sometimes they actually do in the early days of National Review Online there are a bunch of people who became sort of long time friends who were just sort of my over the transom experts I had like an air power I would call out all could always call them guys.

Yes I remember that so I had a Middle East guy who's actually turned out to be a very good friend of mine but I had an air power guy a military guy I had all these different guys and you know you had sort of relationships with him because you found them really useful but

but then you actually don't get to meet them for sometimes years at a time.

Yeah and it's weird.

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