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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 143: We won an award?!?

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2019

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

When you are done watching the impeachment hearings and just can't take it anymore, it's time to open up a can of ... National Security Law Podcast!  For your happy hour or other occasions, we've got a fresh episode. Tune in as Professors Chesney and Vladeck discuss and debate: Yesterday's SCOTUS argument in Hernandez (the cross-border shooting case, which Steve argued!) Alasaad v. Nielsen, in which a district judge rejects the government's position that the Fourth Amendment border exception applies with its usual force in relation to comprehensive searches of phones and other electronics at ports of entry.  Key takeaway: there still is no *warrant* requirement, yet there is a requirement not only that there be reasonable suspicion but that said suspicion concern the presence of *contraband*--i.e., no fishing expeditions for other purposes. National Cupcake Day (Dec. 15) approaches...and with it, the sunset for a series of foreign-intelligence collection authorities (Lone Wolf, Roving Wiretap, Section 215, and USA Freedom Act CDRs) Rumor has it...that President Trump wants to can the IG for the IC on the ground that his handling of the Vindman complaint was not sufficiently loyal.  Ugh.  But make no mistake: Presidents can remove IGs if they want; they are not protected by for-cause limitations. Not impeachable if no ultimate follow-through?  Sigh.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin.

0:10.9

Welcome to episode 143 of the National Security Law Podcast.

0:14.2

We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:17.1

It's Wednesday, November 13th, 2019.

0:20.1

I'm Bobby Chesney. I'm Steve Lottock. It's a home game.

0:22.9

It's a home game? We're here. We're back. We're here. No longer on the road. And we're in high

0:27.0

quality national screen a law podcast studios. That's right, which the picture that the Austin

0:31.7

Chronicle, let's start by saying thank you to the Austin Chronicle for giving us a

0:36.3

Critics Choice Award for the podcast category.

0:39.8

Indeed.

0:40.3

Fantastic.

0:41.1

Woohoo.

0:41.5

We're very excited.

0:42.5

But I think what we love the most about this, I'm confident, the picture that they used to

0:47.8

illustrate is they took a picture of us and they captured us.

0:50.7

Without telling us why, by the way.

0:52.0

No, yeah.

0:52.4

They came and said, we wanted to take a picture.

0:54.1

We just assumed it was some sort of local interest story.

0:57.0

And the picture, which is on our Twitter feed, captures us in a moment of perfect, unintended

1:03.0

frivolity because we're talking, we're enumerating something at the number four level.

1:08.0

I've got four, you know, index two. How do you count to four? How do you count to four

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