Hello, and thank you for listening to the history of World War II podcast, Episode 142,

and interview with Douglas Waller, author of the recently released Disciples, the World

War II missions of the CIA directors who fought for Wild Bill Donovan, published by Simon

and Schuster. So thank you very much, Mr. Waller, for being with us. What's good to be here?

I really do, Fish. I really enjoyed the perspective this book has brought to as much as I've read.

I really did enjoy this different window into this world, so I just really enjoyed it a lot.

So if I could get some of the background and information out of the way just to give everybody

an idea of where you're coming from, Mr. Waller is a veteran correspondent, author and lecturer.

In almost two decades as a Washington correspondent, he covered the Pentagon, Congress, the State

Department, the White House, and the CIA. From 94 to 2007, Mr. Waller served in Time Magazine's

Washington Bureau, eventually as a senior correspondent. At Time Magazine, Mr. Waller covered four

and a fair as extensively as a diplomatic correspondent, traveling throughout Europe, Asia, and the

Middle East, as well as the Persian Gulf region. In the past, he has reported extensively on the

Middle East peace negotiations and the Wars and Iraq. He came to Time Magazine in 1994 from

Newsweek, where he reported on major military conflicts from the Gulf War to Somalia to Haiti,

and has authored or co-authored some nine books. Yeah, it's total of nine books. Wow, that's

amazing. I just have to tell you, my favorite one before I read Disciples was a question of loyalty,

General Billy Mitchell, and the court martial that gripped the nation. Another one that you did,

I think this came out right, I mean, this was the one that came out before Disciples was Wild

Bill Donovan, the spy master who created the OSS and modern American espionage. That one came out

in 2011. So I guess this is just the next step. The Disciples was the next step after the

Wild Bill Donovan book. Well, it was. Actually, after I finished Wild Bill Donovan, I was really

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