At the end of the day, we are resilient.

We are flexible.

And yeah, it's just like the perfectionism can be such thorn in the side of anyone trying to heal from anything.

Welcome to The Whole View.

I'm Stacey Toth, April Everything, and I'm here each week to dive deeper into how we can find happiness and health inside and out through self-love, body positivity, and discovering new ways to be our best selves.

Before we get started, a reminder that this podcast is for general education purposes and is not intended to diagnose, advise, or treat any physical

or mental illness, and we always recommend that you see a licensed health professional accordingly.

Today's guest is Phoebe Lapine, an author, an award-winning blogger that combine science-backed

strategies for managing your blood sugar with dishes that feed your craving. So I'm sure

that's a tagline somewhere. A hundred years ago, I know I've talked about this. Like my roots

and diet culture talked all about like what our ancestors ate and whatever. But Phoebe takes

it from a very different perspective in that people obtained

more than 50% of their nutrients from carbs, which is like the antithesis of what most people talk

about when we talk about what our ancestors were eating. So I'm excited to dive into that a little bit

from a science back perspective today because, as we know, our ancestors had

less incidences of modern or chronic health conditions that all of us are trying to avoid today.

And I know a lot of this work was inspired by Phoebe's own health journey with fertility issues, multiple

pregnancy losses, and her own Hashimoto's diagnosis, which pushed her to navigate

gut-friendly carb consumptions and how to incorporate essential macronutrients into a healthy

lifestyle. I think one of the areas that I've tried to focus on as I've

stepped away from diet culture and into like, okay, how can I optimize my health is thinking

about nutrients efficiency. So I'm excited to talk more about that with Phoebe today. And I also

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