Hey everyone welcome back to part two of this exciting discussion with

immunologist, biologists, and epidemiologist Dr. Beta Sadler of Switzerland.

He wrote a really exciting article called Corona virus, why everyone was wrong.

I covered it last time on part one if you haven't checked out that episode

make sure to do so but this episode is going to concentrate on things like

asymptomatic transmission faulty PCR testing and also how important it is to narrowly tailor our focus in

handling pandemics like this in the future. Enjoy part two. Sadler goes on to talk about the models.

Like I mentioned earlier on, he said they did not want to believe that coronaviruses were

seasonal viruses that would disappear in the summer.

Otherwise, their entire curve models would have looked differently.

And when the initial worst case scenarios didn't come true anywhere, some now still cling to

those models predicting a second wave.

So let's talk about this.

Now I want to do a separate episode about the two models

because the two models are a completely different look at what this epidemic is.

On one hand, this is brand new, everybody's

going to get it and we're all going to die.

On the other hand, this is like an iceberg. At the tip of the iceberg are the cases we know

about and underneath that iceberg is a huge group of people who've already

had this already had exposure already developed antibodies and we're actually a lot

better off than we thought. So this is the

Imperial versus the Oxford models. Depending on which model you're looking at,

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