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Episode 14 | Dylan Bowman

the morning shakeout podcast

the morning shakeout podcast

Coaching, Marathons, Sports, Olympics, Running, Ultrarunning

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2018

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

“For a lot of these races, at least for me, the key limiting factor to success is oftentimes how excited I am to bury myself. And I’ve just found that when I emphasize the rest, and lean on my experience, that I can get as fit as I’m gonna get in six, eight weeks of training and there’s really no need for me to continue to bang my head against the wall for 12 or 16 weeks, even for the most important races. And I think that’s something a lot of people have to learn for themselves and I’m really happy that I have, because yeah, it is very easy to jump at all these cool opportunities that we have in the sport now.” Pumped to welcome professional ultrarunner Dylan Bowman to the podcast. I caught up with the “perpetuator of stoke” just a few days after his most recent victory at the Ultra-Trail Mt. Fuji. The 32-year-old Bowman, who passed leader Pau Capell of Spain with a little over 3 miles to go in the 105-mile race, takes us through his win and explains why it was the best race he’s ever run. Bowman, who also won the Tarawera 100K in New Zealand earlier this year, talks about his season so far, what he’s still got left on his 2018 schedule, and how he’s been able to compete at a high level—and continue improving—for the past nine years. “As somebody who is a veteran of the sport, it is incredibly important to emphasize longevity, at least for me,” Bowman explained. "I’m the type of athlete who would love to be in the sport, competing, until I’m 40 or potentially beyond. I started in ultrarunning when I was 23 years old, and luckily I wasn’t a runner prior to that, so I still feel like I have a lot of tread left on my tires because I didn’t run a ton as a kid or into my teenage and college years. But again, I always have really enjoyed resting, and I think it’s just so important." In this episode we also discuss how he approaches a close contest at the end of an ultra-distance race, his recent FKT (Fastest Known Time) for Northern California’s 55-mile Lost Coast Trail, the consistency of his training volume—and the importance of rest and recovery after big races—the past few years, and how his relationship with coach Jason Koop has evolved since they began working together in 2013. We also talk about why he’d like to eventually get back to the Western States Endurance Run (where he finished third in 2014 but DNF’d in 2015), how the sport of ultrarunning has grown and evolved in recent years, the impact living and training in Marin County, California has had on his career, why he doesn’t think doping is rampant in ultrarunning, and a whole lot more.This episode of the morning shakeout podcast was edited by John Isaac at BaresRecords.com.Complete show notes here: https://www.themorningshakeout.com/podcast-episode-14-dylan-bowman/Sign up here to get the morning shakeout email newsletter delivered to your inbox every Tuesday morning: www.themorningshakeout.com/subscribe/Support the morning shakeout on Patreon: www.patreon.com/themorningshakeout

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0:00.0

All right, Dylan Bowman, thank you for welcoming me into your home and welcome to the Morning Shakeout

0:05.9

podcast.

0:06.9

Mario, it's great to have you here in my home and thanks for having me.

0:11.1

So we are less than a week removed at this point from the Ultra Trail Mount Fuji, which you

0:17.8

came away with the victory from.

0:19.9

How are you feeling?

0:21.6

I'm totally satisfied. I honestly think this race was probably the

0:29.6

greatest or the best of my career and that has left me just totally happy and obviously I'm still

0:39.4

very sore and not anticipating doing much exercising or training anytime soon.

0:46.0

But psychologically, emotionally everything, I'm just super, super happy.

0:52.0

And for what reasons would you consider it the best race of your career?

0:56.0

A lot of different things. Number one, a hundred miles is just so hard and as a result of it being such a long event, you have such a long period of time to screw things up.

1:10.0

And for me, in this race, it was really the first 100-miler that I had done that was really

1:16.4

void of any serious drama. I mean, I had a few moments where I was low on energy and suffered a little bit but we're talking maybe 15 20

1:26.8

minutes at a time and that only happened a couple of times throughout the entire

1:30.0

19-hour race. So just self-management I think was what resulted in in this being

1:38.4

probably my best race ever and then also just my race strategy, the fact that I never panicked even when the gap

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continue to grow and then at the end of the race that I had the courage and energy to really go for it when I had an opportunity and even though the gap was still fairly large that I didn't settle for second place and I fought for the win.

2:05.0

I made it and it was really, really special.

2:11.0

So for those of you listening who don't know, Dylan passed the race leader, Pal Kapel from Spain in the last 5K

2:19.9

of a 100 mile race around Mount Fuji and that was somewhere I'm guessing like

2:24.6

right around 19 hour mark right after the 19 hour mark take me back a little bit to

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