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🗓️ 17 July 2022
⏱️ 49 minutes
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We take a look into a case with so many twists and turns, that it’s made its way into a dramatized series “The thing about Pam” starring Rene Zellweger. However, in this version of events, Pam Hupp takes a backseat as we focus on the destruction she left in her wake. Her victims, the survivors, and how Russ Faria was left picking up the pieces of his life, ignited by a single mission - to prevent his experience from ever happening to someone else.
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Bone Deep, Charles Bosworth, Jr. & Joel Schwartz (2022)
The Thing About Pam (NBC Podcast)
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0:00.0 | The opinions expressed in the following episode do not necessarily reflect those of the minds of madness podcast. |
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0:37.0 | When Russ Furia isn't tinkering away on motorcycles in a small repair shop in a suburb of St. Louis, Missouri, |
0:54.0 | he's taking off on spontaneous wilderness trips or hanging out on the front porch of his mobile home. |
1:01.0 | A modest and humble life Russ has become incredibly grateful for. For him, it's the little things he now lives for, |
1:09.0 | like trying to save a baby starling he named Earl, and co-zing up in bed each night with his fiance, Carol, as they watched TV, never taking a single day for granted. |
1:20.0 | Because over a decade ago, he almost lost it all. |
1:25.0 | Not only did he lose his wife, he lost his freedom and was facing the possibility of losing his life after being wrongfully convicted of murder. |
1:35.0 | Join me now, as we take a look into a case with so many twists and turns, it's made its way into a dramatized series, the thing about Pam, starring Renee Zellwecker. |
1:47.0 | However, in this version of events, Pam Hupp takes a back seat as we focus on the destruction she left in her wake, her victims, the survivors, |
1:57.0 | and how Russ Furia was left picking up the pieces of his life, ignited by a single mission to prevent his experience from ever happening to someone else. |
2:13.0 | On December 28, 2011, at the St. Louis Police Department in Missouri, Russ Furia took a seat in a specially designed chair. |
2:23.0 | Benatham was a finely tuned motion sensor, strapped around his chest and abdomen, were special tubes, designed to detect subtle changes in breathing patterns. |
2:34.0 | Russ was also hooked up to a heart rate, blood pressure, and perspiration monitors, all feeding into a laptop with a screen turned away from him. |
2:44.0 | For the past 15 hours, detectives had grilled Russ about his whereabouts and actions the night before, simply refusing to believe anything told them. |
2:54.0 | Russ hoped the polygraph would finally put an end to the questioning and finally prove he was actually telling the truth, after all, he had nothing to hide. |
3:06.0 | The lie detector test started as they always do, establishing a baseline using simple, easy verifiable questions, like Russ's name, birth date, address, etc. |
3:19.0 | But then came the real questions, do you intend to tell me the truth? Did you kill Betsy Furia? Did you kill Betsy Furia with a knife? |
3:29.0 | Do you know for sure who killed Betsy Furia? |
3:33.0 | The questions themselves, when out-doubt painful reminders, Russ's wife had just been horrifically murdered, regardless, Russ continued to confidently answer no. |
3:45.0 | And just like that, the polygraph was suddenly over. |
3:50.0 | Shortly after that, I was taken into a small interview room and that's where Detective Ray Floyd, who had been one of the ones questioning me the night before, and into the day informed me that I failed the polygraph 100%. |
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