Episode 133: You Are “Hereby Ordered” To Listen To This Podcast

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8 • 646 Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2019

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Well, that's not quite what the President said. It was something about American companies and trade with China, not you and your podcast app. And IEEPA can't be used to make anyone listen to this podcast, we suppose. But voluntary cooperation is welcome, and those who tune in this week won't be disappointed when they find co-hosts Vladeck and Chesney discussing and debating: The International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) as a basis for a potential POTUS order barring U.S. companies from transacting with Chinese counterparts The latest developments (this time at the SCOTUS level) in the Ninth Circuit litigation over Trump administration rules attempting to restrict the pathways for seeking asylum in the US An important but overlooked military commissions development involving the viability of inchoate conspiracy charges (and the meaning of a badly splintered D.C. Circuit opinion on that topic). As for frivolity? Not that frivolous today, actually, as your hosts take up the task of giving advice to 1Ls who are starting law school this month. Or, you could just watch clips from the Paper Chase...

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0:00.0	Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 133 of the National Security Law podcast.
0:14.0	We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.
0:18.0	It's Wednesday, August 28th, and I'm Bobby Chesney. I'm Steve Lodick. It is the first day
0:23.3	of classes here at UT Law. You've already taught, and I've got class coming up in about two hours.
0:29.8	One down, 27 to go. One down, one coming and 41 after that. So what are you teaching this year?
0:35.2	So I've got first year of constitutional law with 74
0:37.7	bread-eyed, bushy-tailed. You have my section. You're teaching section three. You should talk to
0:41.7	the associate dean about that. I don't know, you know, I don't know how that happened. And I've got a
0:46.5	seminar on military justice and jurisdiction that meets on Thursday. So today it's our first meeting of
0:51.8	con law fun where we're talking about everything from the
0:55.8	Albany plan of union to the debate over the first national bank oh wow you're going to cover a
1:01.5	little bit of territory including the room where it happens oh are you going to play it i you know no
1:06.5	because if i play music in class on the first day of class i'll expect that i'm going to do stuff like
1:10.5	interesting cool stuff like that.
1:11.5	And there's no Hamilton musical for like the other 41 classes.
1:15.2	I may have said this on the show before, but for many, many years, I guess I've been teaching come off for about 17 years, maybe 18.
1:23.0	And I always at least, I'm not sure when I picked it up, but for a large stretch of that,
1:28.1	I've read certain passages out of Ron Chernobyl's biography of Hamilton.
1:32.3	And, you know, however many years ago, I'm doing my schick, reading this passage.
1:36.5	And a student says, hey, professor, do you know, they're making a kind of a hip-hop musical
1:41.0	out of that book?
1:42.3	Now, I thought he was just messing with me. Little did I know if I just gone out and bought tickets right then.
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