Welcome to another episode of GDPL Now. This week, we are going to be talking about governance. And in the

studio today, I've got James Leighton Gray from the Privacy of Practice. Welcome, James.

Good morning. And just to remind everybody, oh, well, this GDPL now is brought to you by This is DPO,

which you can find at this is dPO.com.uk. My name is Mark Sheld Edwards. I'm the host.

James, you are the first guest on this show, therefore you have privileged status.

But why don't you tell us a bit about yourself and the privacy practice before we kick into the main topic?

Right. Well, I was in-house at the BBC for every 10 years as data protection officer, amongst other things,

and then did a little bit of thinking about this whole thing and the future of privacy inside an online world for the BBC in its blue sky thinking period.

And then after that I set up the privacy practice, which I run,

and then work in conjunction with other companies in the area. Because for me, this is a matter

of trying to find the right people for the right job, because I think the privacy industry is still

in its infancy in many senses.

I might have been in it for 15 years, but we're expanding fast, rightly, because there's

a lot of people having to come in as the digital economy and indeed the old-fashioned economy expands and the significance

of information and personal information becomes more obvious. And so I sort of like meeting

and working with lots of different people and lots of different industries and actually

ending up having to tell them,

they may think that their industry is unique, but actually they've got very similar problems

to all the other people just down the road.

Media and lawyers, who I work with a lot, we love to think that we are special and different.

We've got the same problems as everybody else.

Okay, well, you're saying that in a week in the UK where the lawyers have are special and different, we've got the same problems as everybody else.

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