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Weird Studies

Episode 120: On Radical Mystery

Weird Studies

Phil Ford and J. F. Martel

Society & Culture, Arts, Philosophy

4.8688 Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2022

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Though it is seldom acknowledged in the weirdosphere, there is a difference between weirdness and mystery. Most of the time, the Weird confronts us with a problem, an impersonal epistemic obstacle which we can always believe would go away if we just closed our eyes and whistled past it with our hands in our pockets. Mystery, however, is always personal. It envelops us; it addresses us as persons. Mystery is as present within us as it is out there. It is there when you open your eyes, and even more so when you shut them tight. Maybe it had us in its grip before we were even born. In this episode, JF and Phil make radical mystery the focus of a discussion ranging over everything from unique kinds of tea and spelunking mishaps to antisonic demon pipes and malevolent radiators. Support us on Patreon Find us on Discord Get the new T-shirt design from Cotton Bureau! Get your Weird Studies merchandise (t-shirts, coffee mugs, etc.) Visit the Weird Studies Bookshop Buy the Weird Studies soundtrack REFERENCES For information on JF's new course, Groundwork for a Philosophy of Magic, go to [Nura Learning](www.nuralearning.com). Phil Ford, “Radical Mystery: A Preliminary Account” J.F. Martel, “Reality is analog” John Keel, The Mothman Prophecies Gabriel Marcel, Being and Having Immanuel Kant, Critique of Pure Reason Eugene Paul Wigner, “The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics” Louis Sass, Madness and Modernism Peter Kingsley, Catafalque Rudolf Otto, The Idea of the Holy Steven Spielberg (dir.), Raiders of the Lost Ark Dogen, “Instructions for the Cook” Alan Watts, The Way of Zen Weird Studies, Episode 56 with Jeremy Johnson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Spectrevision Radio

0:03.3

Welcome to Weird Studies, an arts and philosophy podcast with hosts Phil Ford and J.F. Martel.

0:23.3

For more episodes or to support the podcast, go to weird studies. This is Phil. This week, J.F. and I are discussing an idea that's almost too big to talk about, which is maybe why we haven't talked about it very directly on this show, even though it informs just about everything we say and think. It's the idea of radical mystery. The idea that the unknown, the hidden, the obscure, does not represent a flaw

1:13.1

in our knowledge, but is rather a positive and unexpungible quality of things and events.

1:19.3

But if radical mystery is not defined merely by a lack of qualities, what then are the qualities

1:25.4

that define it? Stay tuned to find out.

1:29.0

We talk about our favorite kinds of tea,

1:31.3

a guy I know who almost died in a cave,

1:34.1

JF's terrifying experience with a malevolent radiator,

1:38.0

my own experience with an Eldrich, imaginable flute, and lots more.

1:42.9

This episode was prompted by a conversation I had with the editor

1:46.3

of a forthcoming collection of musicological essays, one of which is my own, The Devils on Your Side,

1:52.0

on the shady business of Hermeneutics, an earlier draft of which you can find on our Patreon.

1:57.6

This exchange with my editor prompted me in turn to write another essay,

2:01.9

Radical Mystery, a preliminary account, which is also on our Patreon.

2:06.7

You know, there might be a pattern here.

2:09.0

If you're thinking to yourself, geez, it sounds like I'll need to sign up to the weird

2:12.9

studies Patreon to get the full story here.

2:15.8

Keep following that train of thought. These days, the free

2:19.4

flagship show, you know, like this one, is but the iceberg-like protuberance of a discourse

2:25.5

playing out on the Patreon, on the fan discord, on the subreddit, and increasingly in live events.

2:34.0

As a matter of fact, I have two such events to announce.

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