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Episode 114: On the Wheel of Fortune, the Tenth Card of the Tarot

Weird Studies

Phil Ford and J. F. Martel

Society & Culture, Arts, Philosophy

4.8688 Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2022

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

Season five kicks off with a new installment in the ongoing series on the Tarot's twenty-two major arcana. This time, your hosts overcome the trials that fortune has dealt them -- a hangover in the case of Phil, a sleepless night for JF -- to discuss the Wheel of Fortune. Not surprisingly, the conversation is a mess, albeit a beautiful one that comes full circle in the end, tying up all its loose ends in something like a bow (or a coiled serpent). Topics include the challenges of improvised philosophical discussion, the importance of exposing oneself to difficult ideas, the serpentine nature of immanentist discourse, and the doctrine of the Fall. As usual, the anomymously-authored Meditations on the Tarot gets pride of place, although occult luminaries such as Alejandro Jodorowsky, Aleister Crowley, and Pat Sajak make notable appearances. Support us on Patreon Find us on Discord Get the new T-shirt design from Cotton Bureau! Get your Weird Studies merchandise (t-shirts, coffee mugs, etc.) Visit the Weird Studies Bookshop Buy the Weird Studies soundtrack REFERENCES Our Known Friend, Meditations on the Tarot Pints with Aquinas Jaroslav Hašek, Czech author Lon Milo Duquette, Understanding Aleister Crowley’s Thoth Tarot True Detective, tv show Thomas Ligotti, Conspiracy Against the Human Race Henri Bergson, The Two Sources of Morality and Religion Alexander Jodorowsky, The Way of Tarot Jessica Hundley et. al., Tarot. Library of Esoterica Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, French priest and scientist Herman Hesse, The Glass Bead Game Bruno Latour, French philosopher David Bentley Hart interview Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Spectrevision Radio

0:03.3

Welcome to Weird Studies, an arts and philosophy podcast with hosts Phil Ford and J.F. Martel.

0:23.3

For more episodes or to support the podcast, go to weird studies. This is Phil. I usually write out these introductions. I like having

0:56.5

an opportunity to look back on the conversation that J.F. and I just had and ponder what it all means

1:03.7

and maybe try to come out with some fresh insight that might throw it all in a new perspective,

1:08.6

but I do not feel up for that this week.

1:11.6

So I am giving it to you straight off the dome, as the kids say.

1:18.6

Improvising, which is kind of what I always do with JF, as we in fact discuss a little bit at the beginning of this conversation.

1:30.8

But it's rather different improvising with somebody, you know, sort of like playing tennis or something.

1:40.5

That's one thing.

1:41.7

But improvising by yourself, staring into a microphone, that's quite another.

1:50.1

So with these intros, I usually don't leave anything to chance and write it all down.

1:58.3

But no, this time it feels appropriate to be messy, to chance something,

2:06.2

to venture something. After all, it's the beginning of our fifth year. And J.F. and I mark the occasion,

2:26.3

not with the fanfare of drums and trumpets, but rather with a hangover and a sleep-bleered countenance.

2:37.4

J.F. and I were not what you might say at our best, at least at the beginning of this conversation.

2:43.5

But at a certain point, we found our theme, which has something to do with the expression,

2:45.0

time is a flat circle.

2:50.7

And the conversation takes wing and eventually comes back full circle and we end up kind of repositioning

2:53.5

all the various random mondering of the first half hour or so into a new configuration where

3:00.6

perhaps they make some kind of sense. At least I like to think so. Score another one for

3:07.2

improvisation.

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