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Episode 114: Lilianne Mujica-Parodi talks about how diet and ketones affect brain aging

STEM-Talk

Dawn Kernagis and Ken Ford

Health & Fitness, Nutrition, Science, Natural Sciences, Alternative Health

4.6 • 694 Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2020

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Our guest today is Dr. Lilianne Mujica Parodi, the director of the Laboratory for Computational Neurodiagnostics at Stony Brook University. We will be talking to Lily about her paper in PNAS last year that revealed neurobiological changes associated with aging can be seen in a person’s late 40s, a much younger age than what was previously thought.  She and her colleagues at Stony Brook also found that this process may be prevented or even reversed based on dietary changes that involve minimizing the consumption of simple carbohydrates. The study’s targeted experiments  showed that the biomarker for brain aging could be reliably modulated with consumption of different fuel sources. The study showed that decreasing  glucose and increasing ketones resulted in the stability of brain networks. Much of Lily’s work over the years has been focused on developing neuroimaging tools. In today’s interview, we talk to her about functional magnetic resonance imaging, also known as fMRI, which measures the small changes in blood flow that occur with brain activity. It may be used to examine the brain's functional anatomy, evaluate the effects of stroke or other disease, and even guide brain treatment. Functional magnetic resonance imaging also can detect abnormalities within the brain that cannot be found with other imaging techniques. Show notes: [00:03:08] Dawn opens the interview asking Lily what she was like as a child. [00:04:20] Dawn mentions that Lily grew up in Maryland near the National Institute of Health. Lily talks about her experiences interning at the NIH in her senior year of high school. [00:09:41] Dawn asks what brought Lily to Georgetown University. [00:10:29] Ken asks about Lily’s experience at Georgetown University, where she majored in physics and philosophy. [00:15:16] Lily explains why she went to Columbia University after graduating from Georgetown. [00:19:14] Dawn asks about Lily’s research that led to her receiving the Brain and Behavior Research Foundation Young Investigator Award in 2000. [00:22:44] Dawn asks about Lily’s experience giving a lecture at the NIH while she was wrapping up her doctorate at Columbia. [00:27:00] Dawn asks what brought Lily to Stony Brook. [00:30:30] Ken asks Lily what attracted her to biomedical engineering. [00:32:58] Dawn mentions that much of Lily’s work at Stony Brook has been focused on developing neuroimaging tools. Dawn goes on to ask why neuroimaging has not provided the anticipated success for psychiatry and neurology that the electrocardiogram provided for cardiovascular medicine. [00:39:04] Ken mentions that Lily is the director of the Laboratory for Computational Neurodiagnostics. Lily gives an overview of the lab and the research conducted there. [00:44:00] Dawn mentions that Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging, also known as fMRI, measures small changes in blood flow that occur with brain activity, and can be used to examine the brain’s functional anatomy, and evaluate various insults, diseases, and abnormalities, that cannot be found with other imagining techniques. Dawn asks Lily to explain the technology of fMRI and its various applications. [00:45:59] Ken asks about Lily’s 2016 paper published in the Frontiers of Neuroscience journal, that ran under the title, “Signal Fluctuation Sensitivity: An Improved Metric for Optimizing Detection of Resting-State fMRI Networks.” [00:49:36] Lily discusses her lab’s involvement in the development of a technology called “Near-Infrared Spectroscopy,” which is an attempt to replicate MRI-type imaging in an ambulatory environment such as an emergency room or a rural environment. [00:51:36] Dawn asks what led Lily to start researching diets and particularly the ketogenic diet. [00:56:59] Ken mentions that there are two key factors linked to age-based cognitive impairment, those being: insulin resistance and glucose hypometabolism.

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0:00.0

Welcome to STEM Talk.

0:01.2

Stem Talk.

0:01.4

Stem Talk.

0:03.3

Stem Talk.

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Stem Talk, where we introduce you to fascinating people who passionately inhabit the scientific and technical frontiers of our society.

0:14.0

Hi, I'm your host, Don Kornagas, and joining me to introduce today's podcast as the Man Behind the Curtain, Dr. Ken Ford, IHMC's director and chairman

0:21.4

of the double secret selection committee that slicks, all the guests who appear on STEM Talk.

0:25.2

Hi, Don. Great to be here today. So our guest today is Dr. Lillian Mukha Perori, a professor in the

0:31.8

Department of Biomedical Engineering at Stony Brook University, who is also the director of the

0:36.9

Laboratory for Computational Neurodiagnostics.

0:39.3

Lily has joint appointments in the College of Engineering and Applied Sciences as well as Stony Brook's Renaissance School of Medicine,

0:45.3

and she also is a faculty member in the university's Lawfare Center for Physical and Quantitative Biology.

0:51.3

So much of Lily's work at Stony Brook has been focused on developing neuroimaging

0:54.9

tools. And in today's interview, we will especially be talking to her about functional magnetic

0:59.2

resonance imaging, also known as fMRI, which is a technique that measures the small changes in

1:04.1

blood flow that occur with brain activity. We will also talk with Lily about her paper that

1:09.4

appeared last year in PNAS and attracted quite a bit of

1:13.5

attention. In her study, she and her colleagues revealed that neurobiological changes associated

1:19.1

with aging can be seen in a person in as early as their late 40s. This is a much younger age

1:25.9

than had been previously thought. Her study also found that this

1:29.7

process may be prevented or even reversed based on dietary changes that involve a ketogenic diet

1:37.8

or the consumption of exogenous ketones. But before Ken and I get to our interview with Lily,

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