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Criminal

Episode 113: Hostage

Criminal

Vox Media Podcast Network

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.738.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2019

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

In the summer of 1973, Clark Olofsson and Jan-Erik Olsson robbed the Kreditbanken in Stockholm’s Norrmalmstorg town square. They held four people hostage for six days. Swedish psychiatrist and criminologist Nils Bejerot coined the term “Stockholm Syndrome” to describe the response of the hostages. Bank robber Clark Olofsson told us, “It was fun.” Special thanks to Terence Mickey of the podcast Memory Motel, for allowing us to share audio from his interview with Kristin Enmark. Listen to the full Memory Motel episode here, and check out his new podcast, Self? Help! Say hello on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Sign up for our occasional newsletter, The Accomplice. Follow the show and review us on Apple Podcasts: iTunes.com/CriminalShow. We also make This is Love and Phoebe Reads a Mystery. Artwork by Julienne Alexander. Check out our online shop. Episode transcripts are posted on our website. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

When was the first time that you heard the term Stockholm syndrome?

0:05.0

It was this psychiatrist who is dead now, but he was a strange guy.

0:11.0

The term Stockholm syndrome was coined by psychiatrist Niels Beiro.

0:16.0

It became well known in 1974 when newspaper Eris Patti Hurst was kidnapped

0:23.0

by the Symbianese Liberation Army.

0:25.0

And instead of wanting to be rescued, she teamed up with the people who kidnapped her

0:30.0

and began to help them, rob banks.

0:34.0

But that's not where we get the term Stockholm syndrome.

0:38.0

One summer in 1973, two men robbed a bank in Stockholm.

0:43.0

They held four people hostage for six days.

0:47.0

The bank robbers had met one another in prison.

0:50.0

Their names were Jan Erich Olsen and Clark Olipsen.

0:55.0

Here's Clark.

0:56.0

The main thing was take it easy.

0:59.0

Nobody is going to get killed because I was the good guy.

1:03.0

And the police was the bad guy.

1:07.0

This is the beginning of the Stockholm syndrome.

1:11.0

By the time the two men met in prison, Clark had robbed a lot of banks.

1:15.0

He'd been to prison many times.

1:18.0

Clark became known all over Sweden when a robbery went wrong

1:22.0

and his friend shot and killed a policeman.

1:25.0

He'd become a kind of celebrity bank robber.

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