Episode 113 | Can Trump Really Deport Lawful Residents

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.8 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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In today's all-new episode, our hosts Renato Mariotti and Asha Rangappa discuss the outrage, and potential illegality, of the Trump administration deporting lawful residents just because they oppose his cruel policies. Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmedia Renato and Asha discuss the case of Mahmoud Khalil, a student activist at Columbia University, whose pro-Palestinian views led the Trump administration to threaten deportation. The hosts detail how Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio labeled Khalil as a potential threat to U.S. foreign policy goals in order to justify the violation of his protected status and Constitutional rights. Asha, a Yale University National Security Law professor and former FBI special agent, provides insight into the legal framework at play. She explains the risk of what happens when the executive branch assumes unchecked power to detain and deport individuals based on their speech or beliefs. Renato, a former federal prosecutor and legal analyst, lays out how green cards are supposed to provide a status that cannot be revoked without due process. And he walks us through the various constitutional safeguards designed to protect lawful permanent residents from arbitrary government retribution. Our hosts also reflect on what these moves mean for U.S. foreign policy and national security, exploring scenarios where hostile foreign governments could exploit and worsen the impact on the freedom of speech. In this broader lens, we’ll also talk about a recent executive order targeting Democratic-leaning law firm Perkins Coie. But all is not lost, as Asha and Renato describe the glimmers of hope that can be seen from the judiciary. A tough legal battle awaits, which gives the courts an opportunity to highly scrutinize, and perhaps even strike down, Trump’s overreaching policies. We hope you enjoy this episode! Be sure to join us next week as Asha and Renato continue to bring clarity to the complex issues that can’t be boiled down to simple sound bites, right here on It's Complicated. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:10.1	So, Renato, can the Trump administration really deport a lawful permanent resident just because they don't like what the person has to say?
1:13.0	It's complicated.
1:19.5	I'm Renata Miriati.
1:24.1	I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst.
1:26.3	And I'm Asha Rangappa.
1:30.7	I teach national security law at Yale University. I'm a former FBI special agent, and I'm a legal contributor for ABC News. And we're here to help you understand topics
1:36.9	that can't be boiled down into a sound bite or a skeet. So Asha, this week, I think Eschit.
1:52.5	So Asha, this week, I think we found out through a truth, a Trump truth, or whatever you call it, a false, a Trump false, that he is revoking, according to him, the green card
1:59.7	of Mahmoud Khalil, who is a student activist at Columbia
2:03.7	University who has been prominently presenting pro-Palestinian views.
2:11.7	And essentially, Trump is like, we are going to detain him and we're going to deport him.
2:16.1	And Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State,
2:19.0	has backed that up. Right. So we know that Khalil is currently being held in Louisiana. And this is
2:29.6	really interesting because all of this litigation currently is coming in the course of a habeas proceeding.
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