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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 109: The State of the Podcast Is Strong!

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8 • 646 Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2019

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

This week on the National Security Law Podcast, we've got: A heavy pace of airstrikes against al Shabaab targets in Somalia Ruminations on declining media attention (and the prospect of a sharper dropoff soon) to things relating to GTMO A 15-year sentence in an Islamic State material support case A magistrate recommends vacating the conviction of Hamid Hayat for ineffective assistance of counsel, some thirteen years after his original conviction under the 1994 material support statute (28 USC 2339A) (in a remarkable example of that statute's potential scope, about which Bobby wrote here more than a decade ago). SCOTUS preview:  The Court soon will consider the cert. petitions in Larabee (where Steve is counsel, and which raises questions about the ability of the military to recall former servicemembers to active duty in order to court martial them) and Hamidulin (where the Fourth Circuit rejected a Taliban fighter's claim of combatant immunity from prosecution). The D.C. Circuit's opinion in Klayman v. Obama, affirming dismissal of an attempt to litigate Section 215 bulk metadata collection (now superseded by the USA Freedom Act) on mootness grounds, and likewise affirming dismissal of a challenge to 702 collection on standing grounds. And then there's the Super Bowl.  You'll hear more offense in our breakdown of the game, the halftime show, and the commercials than you saw in the game itself!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 109 of the National Security Law Podcast.

0:14.3

We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:17.3

It's Wednesday afternoon, February 6th, and Steve, the state of the podcast is

0:22.4

strong. You know, I was, I was going to make a joke about how the state of the, the state of the

0:27.6

union is unity, but, you know, President Trump and I have different definitions of unity.

0:31.8

I don't think we have unity. We have unity on the podcast. We have respect. We do? Yeah.

0:36.4

Oh. Unity of mutual respect on the podcast,

0:39.3

even if not agreement. Unity of, unity of bad baseball team fandom. We do have that. Unity

0:44.7

of a Longhorn affiliation. And we both agree that this podcast is a big, beautiful, strong podcast.

0:52.4

Indeed. We are unified in our perhaps unique view of the merits of this podcast.

0:58.2

I think we should make our colleagues all trapes in here with a sergeant in arms announcing

1:02.1

them.

1:02.5

The dean of the law school.

1:05.0

The James Baker chair.

1:07.3

Yes, that's right.

1:08.0

We get to shake hands, glad handsome people.

1:10.9

So I will say, I do think that it's always amusing to be when our colleagues discover

1:15.2

that we have a podcast.

1:16.6

Oh, did that come up?

1:17.7

I'll be in conversations.

1:18.6

I was like, yeah, Bobby and I are going to go record our podcast.

1:20.6

You and Bobby have a podcast?

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