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Episode 109 | Mike Smith

the morning shakeout podcast

the morning shakeout podcast

Coaching, Marathons, Sports, Olympics, Running, Ultrarunning

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2020

⏱️ 99 minutes

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“When I look at an athlete, the way I see an athlete, how they see themselves, how they feel about themselves, where they are in their lives, that’s going to show up on the track way more than the training, right? The training is only going to be in line with the athlete when those other places are in check. You can maybe fake it and get by for a little while but ultimately those things are going to reveal themselves more than the workouts, and the mile(age), whatever, any of that stuff. So, how people are feeling is, to me, the first part that you have to tackle as an athlete, then you can nerd out on workouts. But to get that order wrong, I think, you’re going to be dumbfounded at the lack of results.” Mike Smith is the director of cross-country and track and field at Northern Arizona University, where his men’s cross team country team won three-straight national titles from 2016 through 2018, and last fall, they finished runner-up to BYU; his women’s squad qualified for nationals last fall for the first time since 2008, finishing 14th. Prior to his time at NAU, Mike coached at Georgetown, and in his coaching career he’s guided numerous athletes to all-conference honors, All-American awards, and national titles. He also coaches a handful of pros and still leads the Team Run Flagstaff group workouts on Tuesday nights in town. I’ve been following Mike’s career since the mid-1990s when we were both running as high schoolers in small-town Central Massachusetts. This is a conversation about the path Mike’s followed to get where he is today, and who and what have influenced him along the way. It’s also a conversation about his approach to coaching, running, competition, and life that I personally took a lot away from and I know you will too.This episode is brought to you by: SOAR Running: SOAR is giving all listeners the chance to win a spring kit bundle, comprised of your choice of any top, bottom and accessory from SOAR’s range of products. All you have to do is head over to soarrunning.com/themorningshakeout and enter. That’s it. The winner will be selected at random and entries close at midnight on Sunday, May 3. Also, SOAR is offering FREE global shipping to morning shakeout listeners throughout April. When you check out at soarrunning.com, enter the code SHAKEOUT in the promotion box and they won’t charge you for shipping, no matter where you live in the world.The Feed: The Feed is a one-stop-shop for athletes and their online store offers a selection of over 200 different sport nutrition products, supplements and recovery devices. Whether you are looking to stock up on healthy snacks or improve your training or recovery, visit thefeed.com/morningshakeout to save 12% off your next order.Complete show notes: https://themorningshakeout.com/podcast-episode-109-with-mike-smith/Sign up here to get the morning shakeout email newsletter delivered to your inbox every Tuesday morning: www.themorningshakeout.com/subscribe/Support the morning shakeout on Patreon: www.patreon.com/themorningshakeout

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When I look at an athlete the way I see an athlete how they see themselves how they feel about themselves where they are in their lives

0:08.0

That's gonna show up on the track way more than the training right the training The training is only going to be in line with the

0:14.6

athlete when those other places are in check. You can maybe fake it and get by for a

0:19.2

little while, but ultimately those things are going to reveal themselves more than the workouts and the mileage whatever any of that stuff and so how people are feeling is to me the first part that you have to tackle as an athlete then you can nerd out on

0:34.8

workouts but to get that order wrong I think is you're gonna be dumbfounded at the lack of

0:40.2

results. That's Mike Smith and this is the morning shakeout

0:47.1

podcast. Hey, what's up everybody. I'm your host Mario Freoli and this week for the second straight episode I've got another

1:04.8

fellow central Massachusetts native joining me on the podcast and this time it's

1:09.4

Mike Smith Mike is the director of cross country in track and field at Northern Arizona University,

1:15.6

where his men's cross country team won three straight national titles from 2016 through

1:20.5

2018, and last fall they finished runner-up to BYU.

1:25.0

His women's squad qualified for Nationals last fall for the first time since 2008 finishing 14th

1:30.6

and prior to his time at N. A.U. Mike coached at Georgetown, and in his coaching career,

1:35.3

he's guided numerous athletes to all conference honors, all American awards, and national titles.

1:40.8

He also coaches a handful of pros and still leads the team-run Flagstaff group workouts on Tuesday nights in Flag.

1:47.0

I've been following Mike's career since the mid-1990s when we were both running as high schoolers in small town central

1:53.8

Massachusetts. This is a conversation about the path Mike's followed to get where he

1:58.3

is today and who and what have influenced him along the way. It's also a conversation about his approach to coaching, running,

2:05.4

competition, and life that I personally took a lot away from,

2:08.6

and I know you will, too.

2:10.9

We squeezed as much as we could into this 90 minute episode and my only regret is that we couldn't have gone twice as long

2:16.6

So without further ado, please enjoy my conversation with Coach Mike Smith. All right, Mike Smith, you are someone whose career I have followed since the mid to late 1990s when you were at Wachusett Regional High School, and I have been admiring you ever since. It is a real honor to have you on the morning

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