Hey guys, welcome to episode 104 of a true crime couple. I'm Kay.

And I'm John. So today we're going to be covering the case or cases of

Gregory and Zachary Whitman. This is a very intense case and it deals with

violence against children. So I just wanted to mention that straight off the bat

so that trigger warning is taking care of. So this case is very unique in many

ways. And I've wanted to cover it for years, but I've been waiting for the

story to have an ending because of a particular Supreme Court ruling that

happened in 2016. So we really got some closure on the story or some kind of

semblance of a conclusion in 2019. But of course in no way is that ever an

ending to the suffering that the Whitman family had to endure for 23 years

and still continues to endure. And as I tell you the story, you'll kind of

understand that a little bit more. But John, this is an intense case with a

lot of unanswered questions. Okay, so what you're telling me is it's everything

that I love. Yes, I think I think you'll find this really interesting. Okay, well

I'm ready. Yeah, so I don't even want to give our typical introduction because

I don't want to give anything away. Please say the suspect 31-year-old Jeffrey

Dahmer has confessed to the feelings of 11 people whose remains were found in

his apartment. We are all evil in some form or another. Are we mad? Lock your

doors, lock your windows. If you have the ability to provide additional security

devices, then by all means do so. So the Whitman family was your average suburban

family in the fall of 1998. They had the big beautiful house in the Quaint Town

of New Freedom, Pennsylvania. They had two sons, Zachary aged 15 and Greg aged

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