Episode 104: This Podcast Is a State Secret

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8 • 646 Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2018

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Deep-dive alert! That's right, we are closing out 2018 with a deep-dive episode on the State Secrets Privilege. From Totten to Reynolds and on to the present day, you'll want to tune in for this hour-long exploration of the nature, history, and issues associated with ye ol' State Secrets Privilege! As for the frivolity? Let's just say that if you are not a fan of Chevy Chase, you'll want to skip the final segment.

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0:00.0	Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 104 of the National Security Law podcast.
0:14.3	We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.
0:17.3	It's Tuesday morning. It's December 12th. I'm Bobby Chesney.
0:23.4	I'm Steve Vlodickk and exams are just about over.
0:52.6	Have you graded yet? I've graded all of my zero exams. Oh, yeah, your leave going? I'm like, I'm not on leave. I just have a course release. You should have gone somewhere. I'm on the appointments committee and we have a baby who's six months old today. That's outrageous somebody put you on the appointments committee. I should take that up with the associate dean. You should. Do you know that guy? Yeah, he's busy grading his exams.
0:55.1	Cyber security exams are pretty fun.
0:56.3	No.
0:56.8	Yeah.
1:02.2	So Bobby, we have a, it's a week before Christmas and all through the national security world.
1:03.2	Not a creature.
1:03.5	Not a creature. He's stirring.
1:03.9	Except for Michael Flynn, who's in court today.
1:05.7	Yeah, and it looks like probably no jail time for General Flynn.
1:09.8	I mean, you know, okay, so that doesn't prove anything?
1:13.3	Like, it's like, that proves it's all a scam.
1:15.7	Are people saying that?
1:16.5	Yes.
1:17.0	Well, look, we begin with the proposition that people are going to be saying crazy stuff
1:22.2	on anything related to these issues.
1:23.8	The interesting question is, is there any real momentum among sensible people to think
1:27.4	that that's the case? No. I can't imagine that's the case. Although you and I might have a different
1:30.7	definition of sensible people. Well, that's part of the great joys of living in a free world. We
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