Oh my lord, here's a just reward. Bring me my devil. Just behind the door she said and flies down the road.

I'm pretty one of 11 calls from somebody named Alex Reagan. It's Richard Smith.

Now we're recording. Cool. And I'm gonna do the intro for as well. My emphasis I think was just a little bit too much like, duh, duh. I don't know. Let me just do it again.

She said she saw someone standing over his bed. It get true they're gonna disappear for five days.

I know. I know. I know. It's like adding another layer of green on top of green.

This is episode two of the Black Tapes podcast.

What started off is a Pacific Northwest Stories spin-off series featuring a weekly profile of interesting people and occupations has turned into something else.

Last week I told you this was going to be a two-part series on paranormal investigators or ghost hunters.

Over the past few weeks a series of very interesting things happened surrounding Dr. Strand and our investigation into his work.

My producers and I sat down and after a lot of back and forth came to the conclusion that for the rest of this season we're going to be telling one story.

The story of Dr. Strand and his mysterious Black Tapes cases will be telling this story in order week to week.

So if you haven't listened to episode one go back and start there. We'll wait.

From the National Radio Alliance and Mino Beats Whale it's the Black Tapes podcast. I'm Alex Regan.

Last week we looked at two shadowy figures in two separate videos of what turned out to be one person, Robert Torres.

We're going to explore this case further but first I'd like to bring up two things. I'll be brief. I promise.

Number one. While researching the paranormal investigators for this show I produced her Nick dug up some interesting facts about the ghost hunters that we didn't include because they're not directly related to paranormal research.

But because a lot of those interesting facts relate directly to Richard Strand and because Strand has now become an integral part of this series,

we're going to meet later this week to discuss whether or not we want to pursue or reveal the information we dug up on this podcast.

The second thing is directly related to my work as the host of this show.

I just I think it's something we need to address. That's my producer Nick. I'm not going to bury the lead.

He's concerned I may have coerced Dr. Strand into allowing us access to his Black Tapes cases.

I just think ethically speaking that a line may have been well not exactly crossed but maybe things got a bit edgy.

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