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Ruben Flores was born in Compton, California on April 9, 1941.

Susan Charles was born 10 years later in New York City and raised by a young mother who

would go on to marry a man she later had six more children with.

Ruben served for four years in the US Navy, reaching a level of third-class petty officer

before being honorably discharged in 1963.

He then got a job with General Telephone, later GTE, where he worked for the next several

decades, even staying on board when they became Verizon in 2000, up until his retirement.

One time in the mid-60s, he worked for a few years as a reserve police officer for the

Radondo Beach Police Department.

As a reserve officer, what duties did you have?

Just backup and officer unpatrouled.

And did you have occasion to do that?

Yes.

Why did you cease employment in that line of work?

It was an employee that was just a volunteer part.

For years, he and Susan would keep an antique police baton hanging in the entryway of

their home.

While it was seized by San Luis Vispos Sheriff's Detective Henry Stewart, on July 18, 1996, during

the first search of their white court home.

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