Episode 047 — Apple, Google, and Privacy
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Ben Thompson / James Allworth
4.6 • 832 Ratings
🗓️ 6 June 2015
⏱️ 69 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, James. |
| 0:00.7 | Ben, how are you? |
| 0:02.9 | Well, I would say it's been a long time just we talked, but we did actually talk last week. |
| 0:06.6 | We didn't. |
| 0:07.2 | We didn't just talk once. |
| 0:08.7 | We talked twice. |
| 0:09.9 | I know. |
| 0:10.4 | I know. |
| 0:11.4 | And so this was a unfortunate, unfortunate in many respects. |
| 0:18.0 | So we talked about the fact that Johnny Ive is getting a quote unquote promotion. |
| 0:25.5 | And I articulated my position that I thought this was a kind of the first step, the beginning |
| 0:33.3 | of the end, I think is how I put it. |
| 0:34.6 | Not the end, you know, three to five years maybe, but the beginning of the end. |
| 0:38.8 | And to which you objected. I think we had a good back and forth. I'm not sure we changed |
| 0:42.8 | each other's minds. But I think we really fleshed out, fleshed out the issue. |
| 0:47.6 | It was great. I mean, I think, did you enjoy it? |
| 0:51.4 | I very much enjoyed it. And because no one's heard it, we can pretend it's like the best episode ever. |
| 0:56.1 | We can not only pretend it was the best episode ever. |
| 0:59.0 | And then on the next day, news came out that, I don't know, somewhat kind of vindicated me. |
| 1:05.4 | And then all of a sudden the recordings stopped working. |
| 1:09.2 | That's not how it went down. |
| 1:12.1 | What happened was Jeff Williams at Code sure seemed to suggest that Apple was working on a car. |
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