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Episode 047 — Apple, Google, and Privacy

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Ben Thompson / James Allworth

Technology

4.6832 Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2015

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s episode, Ben and James briefly discuss Jony Ive’s promotion, the future of Apple, Google I/O, and Tim Cook’s speech on privacy. Links Ben Thompson: The Apple Car and Jony Ive — Stratechery Daily Update Ben Thompson: Google IO: Android and Serving the World; Photos, Google Now, and the World’s Information; Google’s Turning Point — Stratechery Daily Update Ben Thompson: The Funnel Framework — Stratechery Matthew Panzarino: Apple’s Tim Cook Delivers Blistering Speech On Encryption, Privacy — TechCrunch Ben Thompson: Tim Cook’s Unfair and Unrealistic Privacy Speech, Strategy Credits, The Privacy Priority Problem — Stratechery Daily Update Ben … Continue reading Episode 047 — Apple, Google, and Privacy

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, James.

0:00.7

Ben, how are you?

0:02.9

Well, I would say it's been a long time just we talked, but we did actually talk last week.

0:06.6

We didn't.

0:07.2

We didn't just talk once.

0:08.7

We talked twice.

0:09.9

I know.

0:10.4

I know.

0:11.4

And so this was a unfortunate, unfortunate in many respects.

0:18.0

So we talked about the fact that Johnny Ive is getting a quote unquote promotion.

0:25.5

And I articulated my position that I thought this was a kind of the first step, the beginning

0:33.3

of the end, I think is how I put it.

0:34.6

Not the end, you know, three to five years maybe, but the beginning of the end.

0:38.8

And to which you objected. I think we had a good back and forth. I'm not sure we changed

0:42.8

each other's minds. But I think we really fleshed out, fleshed out the issue.

0:47.6

It was great. I mean, I think, did you enjoy it?

0:51.4

I very much enjoyed it. And because no one's heard it, we can pretend it's like the best episode ever.

0:56.1

We can not only pretend it was the best episode ever.

0:59.0

And then on the next day, news came out that, I don't know, somewhat kind of vindicated me.

1:05.4

And then all of a sudden the recordings stopped working.

1:09.2

That's not how it went down.

1:12.1

What happened was Jeff Williams at Code sure seemed to suggest that Apple was working on a car.

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