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George Fowler, couples therapist guru.

I'm glad to do this podcast with you.

Same here, Laurie, sex therapist expert, helping me find words for a topic that for a longest time I never talked about.

Oh man, and you are helping me with emotional communication and intelligence.

This has been fun.

We've been at this really a year, even though people who are listening to this

are just hearing us for the first time.

We're really glad that they've joined us.

Absolutely for us this is more than just a way of passing a time and entertaining people, right?

This is a mission.

We really want to change some of the stigma around what makes relationships work and not work and let's talk about sex. Keep it hot baby.

Yeah. And you can hear George is from New York, his accent. I live in the South, grew up in California.

We're having fun.

That's right. And I was a New York City police officer and firefighter and now I'm a couples therapist so it's pretty

funny that I'm talking about emotions and feelings and things that help people get together.

You're this macho, macho guy, and also survived 9-11.

You can still be macho and be in touch with your feelings, Lori.

I do really like that about you, that you are kind of this macho guy but you talk about the heart and tears and all these emotional things.

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